The continued overreactions by fan base and media is embarrassing (22 Viewers)

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ravenblade23x said:
I could careless what you think of Sean and Drew, its beside the point and kind of a lazy strawman argument. The point is that over a 15 year period they made the Saints a desirable destination and a place that both players and coaches looked at in a positive light. Its now clear that some of that shine has left.

We have a terrible roster, we have serious cap implications and Loomis and the FO is no longer looked at in the same light as some of the other top tier teams.
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The shine is always lost until someone puts some elbow grease on something and reshines it.
 
McCarthy, if hired, is the best coach for the state of this franchise.

His experience and coaching will help shape this team for whoever may take over from him, but hiring a young coach or first-year coach for the direction this franchise is trying to go would be a poor decision made on both sides.
 
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Covington Saint said:
The shine is always lost until someone puts some elbow grease on something and reshines it.
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Sure, but until the Saints prove they can hire the right person and put the work in, I reserve the right as a fan to complain about the choices they make.

The entire premise of your thread is call out people that are just pointing out very clear issues about the state of the team. It's not embarrassing to see that faults and failures of the Saints over the last fours year. Not going to stop rooting for the team to get it right, but also not going to stop calling them out when I think they made a mistake.

Entire point of SSF is for us to all pretend like we know how to run the team better then those hired to do it.
 
ravenblade23x said:
Sure, but until the Saints prove they can hire the right person and put the work in, I reserve the right as a fan to complain about the choices they make.

The entire premise of your thread is call out people that are just pointing out very clear issues about the state of the team. It's not embarrassing to see that faults and failures of the Saints over the last fours year. Not going to stop rooting for the team to get it right, but also not going to stop calling them out when I think they made a mistake.

Entire point of SSF is for us to all pretend like we know how to run the team better then those hired to do it.
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The sky screaming over Aaron Glenn and Joe Brady decisions are ridiculous petulant and quite ignorant.

We didn’t want Glenn and Brady is still very green.
 
No one knows which of these candidates will amount to anything, other than McCarthy, who imo is a very high floor candidate. But Weaver could end up bring an amazing HC. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Worst case, we hire a bad candidate and we lose a lot of games while stocking up on good draft picks and resetting the cap, thereby making us an attractive team for coaches in 2-3 years.
 
Covington Saint said:
The sky screaming over Aaron Glenn and Joe Brady decisions are ridiculous petulant and quite ignorant.

We didn’t want Glenn and Brady is still very green.
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The team was interested in Glenn, as has been reported already. You were not interested in him. Some fans' continued denial in this post-Sean/Drew era is truly amazing. Nevertheless, ignorance is bliss.
 
I'll go one step further...I hope MM takes a pass and we ride with Rizzi at this point. Guy has fire and passion and the players want him. Rizzi is a little too over the top for my tastes but I'd rather have that than DA version 2.0
 
No2DC said:
The team was interested in Glenn, as has been reported already. You were not interested in him. Some fans' continued denial in this post-Sean/Drew era is truly amazing. Nevertheless, ignorance is bliss.
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We are interested in who are interested in us, a coach taking another job does not mean we were foolish for seeing the potential in the hire.

We aren't hiring a poor coach because other coaches found preferable fits.
 
No2DC said:
The team was interested in Glenn, as has been reported already. You were not interested in him. Some fans' continued denial in this post-Sean/Drew era is truly amazing. Nevertheless, ignorance is bliss.
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I started a Glenn post long ago. Don’t assume what you think I think. But he too was risky, loads of people didn’t want a defensive guy and he very well could just be the next defensive fad failure hire. Long list in jets organization.
 
Covington Saint said:
The Saints have been told no or been passed on every coaching cycle in our existence.

Joe Brady is young and the greenest of all the options. High failure rate.

We do have some cap hurdles. Get over it.

Aaron Glenn went to New York where he played ball and got to bring a friend option. So what. 75% of us were crying we didn’t want him either.

Other organizations made terrible hires and nobody is criticizing them. I mean I don’t want the Pete Carroll and Russel Wilson option. PASS.

I don’t want Brian Schitneuer, I mean that’s equivalent To Mickey just hiring kubiak.

People are sky screaming and it’s all absurd. What’s worse is the media leading the crap narrative.
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I don’t know it seems those that are happy where this franchise is at are more sad.
 
Covington Saint said:
I started a Glenn post long ago. Don’t assume what you think I think. But he too was risky, loads of people didn’t want a defensive guy and he very well could just be the next defensive fad failure hire. Long list in jets organization.
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Many people have stated a preference for an offensive guy; that is clear. However, many people see a leader in him. The top candidates have already been reported for the cycle, and Glenn was one of them. That's what I meant is, whether you like him or not. We seek the failure of anyone who doesn't choose us. The good thing is that in a year, we will have a clearer picture of who was right and wrong. This is not an attractive job for people with options.
 
meily said:
We are interested in who are interested in us, a coach taking another job does not mean we were foolish for seeing the potential in the hire.

We aren't hiring a poor coach because other coaches found preferable fits.
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I was responding to another comment. Obviously we seek mutual interest, but at this point, we are standing without anyone to dance with. Let the denial continue.
 
And now, the only people with a scheduled interview left is Kellen Moore, you haven't actually scheduled McCarthy yet. I think Kingsbury stays in with the commanders.
 

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