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[guidomerkinsrules]

Huh...no comments now

I was at a stoplight when I saw the tome
And then I forgot
I might get to it on Boxing Day

 

[Dago]

I was at a stoplight when I saw the tome
And then I forgot
I might get to it on Boxing Day

How can you draw conclusions when over a third of the information is missing?

 

[St. Widge]

Huh...no comments now

I'm not sure what comment you want. The topic here is the crime stats in New Orleans and I don't see anything in that article that talks about New Orleans. I have no idea if national crime stats are accurate or not. And frankly, I don't care if they are or aren't. The only purpose they serve is politics.

 

[St. Widge]

How can you draw conclusions when over a third of the information is missing?

Really depends on what information if missing. Statisticians and epidemiologists draw conclusions all the time with far less than 2/3 of the information.

 

[Dago]

Really depends on what information if missing. Statisticians and epidemiologists draw conclusions all the time with far less than 2/3 of the information.

My statement was a general one about the claims of crime being down. How can you claim crime is down in New York, for example, if districts aren't reporting?

And yes, in certain aspects conclusions can be drawn with limited data. For example, if you only have 66% of a cohort involving a contagious disease and of that 90% died, it is reasonable to draw a confident conclusion. However, in this case a lack of data cannot cause crime rates/incidents to improve. Full data would make those statistics worse with near certainty

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Really depends on what information if missing. Statisticians and epidemiologists draw conclusions all the time with far less than 2/3 of the information.

That’s rookie **** - you should see what an SSF poster can do with 1/10th of that

 

[St. Widge]

My statement was a general one about the claims of crime being down. How can you claim crime is down in New York, for example, if districts aren't reporting?

And yes, in certain aspects conclusions can be drawn with limited data. For example, if you only have 66% of a cohort involving a contagious disease and of that 90% died, it is reasonable to draw a confident conclusion. However, in this case a lack of data cannot cause crime rates/incidents to improve. Full data would make those statistics worse with near certainty

I mean, those are FBI stats. Just because NY doesn't officially report stats to the FBI doesn't mean they don't have internal stats or that someone else doesn't have stats for NY. I'd imagine that if anyone wanted to do the leg work, that information is available by a FOIA request. But it would obviously take many man hours to examine.

But, maybe crime isn't down in NY or SF. What difference does it make? We all know that under the Constitution the Feds don't have general police power and that power is vested in the states and local municipalities. So, to the extent crime isn't down, it's really a local issue, not a national issue. So, my concern is whether New Orleans stats are correct and your concern is if Baton Rouge stats are accurate. Why do you care if the National stats aren't quite rite or the NY stats are wrong?

 

[Dago]

I mean, those are FBI stats. Just because NY doesn't officially report stats to the FBI doesn't mean they don't have internal stats or that someone else doesn't have stats for NY. I'd imagine that if anyone wanted to do the leg work, that information is available by a FOIA request. But it would obviously take many man hours to examine.

But, maybe crime isn't down in NY or SF. What difference does it make? We all know that under the Constitution the Feds don't have general police power and that power is vested in the states and local municipalities. So, to the extent crime isn't down, it's really a local issue, not a national issue. So, my concern is whether New Orleans stats are correct and your concern is if Baton Rouge stats are accurate. Why do you care if the National stats aren't quite rite or the NY stats are wrong?

So you think they have accurate records but aren't sharing them with the feds as required? Ok

But let's not forget how this started. All I did was express my doubts about the national narrative that crime is down and I got jumped and even told I don't understand statistics. So I provided evidence from an impeccable, non biased source back my opinion and now it's "so what?"

For the record, if you looked at the data in my source, you would see that New Orleans is also a problem area in reporting.