The Ridiculous Unnecessary Roughness Penalty on Alontae Taylor on 3rd and 22 (1 Viewer)

[saintfan1972]

Officials should be fined for garbage like that

Not in a case like this they shouldn't. Have you ever reffed a game before? Even at the high school level? I did for 8 years just in high school. The speed at which that play happens is unreal. There just needs to be a replay factor in place like in college to get those right. I'm not saying the refs get everything right because they don't, but until you've been on the field before seeing that live, it's hard to know.

 

[Plow]

It would not have withstood a review.

 

[BBarnes]

While I’m fine with everything not being reviewable by challenge, everything should be able to have the expedited review by NY. Just a quick “pick that flag up guys, clean hit” takes 2 seconds

 

[St. Geezy]

It's not the call so much thr timing of said call. Call that on first down on a 3 yard pass...whatever, but 3rd and 22 on a "we're just trying not to turn the ball over so we can punt on 4th" play...complete and utter BS

Yep...that's the league's secret formula...ticky tack, sometimes even made-up calls on third downs, along with laughably horrible ball spotting.

 

[CowtownSaint]

Not in a case like this they shouldn't. Have you ever reffed a game before? Even at the high school level? I did for 8 years just in high school. The speed at which that play happens is unreal. There just needs to be a replay factor in place like in college to get those right. I'm not saying the refs get everything right because they don't, but until you've been on the field before seeing that live, it's hard to know.

I’ve coached at the level you specified alone, for just about 20 seasons I know exactly what you’re talking about. And let me tell you. Levels above and below, better officiating than at the HS level, I’ve never seen so much inept guesses and not knowing the rules than at this particular level, and I’ve found it’s gotten worse and worse over the last decade to the point where I am up here, there is an officiating shortage.

I’ve had to file multiple complaints to my leagues, including one play just in 2022 where an opposing receiver literally dropped the pass, never even came close to possessing it, the ball was on ground 4 feet away from him o the ground he goes to grab the ball to give to The official and the official who was right there decided to rule it a catch!

There is an EPIDEMIC of refs calling what they “think” they see instead of what they actually see. I can understand that there is speed in this game and a lot of times you see the body language, but simply put, if you didn’t actually see the violation of the rules, don’t call it!

Then that opens it up the point people make which I agree with, everything should be reviewable, because if you take the approach that things aren’t above being reviewed, and the officials are “always right” then they deserve extreme criticism for their flagrant lack of professionalism in doing their correct job.

As your example of HS, here is where I have no sympathy, if I’m putting in 30 hours of prep and practice a week for these games I expect the officials to show up and do their job too. As the levels get higher the expectation should as well

 

[NatureBoy]

Just have a team of 'elite' refs looking at any questionable flag in a control room in New York. They have access to all the replays and angles. They can call the head ref on any flag and overturn the call on the field.

It isn't rocket science. This could be fixed in one weekend.

I like it. It shouldn’t be up to coaches to ask for a replay. The NFL should police themselves and get it right.

 

[St.Dan]

You gotta admit that was a darned good acting job. I hope his agent has connections in Hollywood. Glad he got what he deserved though. Quarterback's are getting to be masters at that. Almost NBA quality.

Reason we need to draft Daniels. We know it’s not gonna happen, but can you imagine the calls he’d get while ripping through the opposing secondary like a hot knife through butter?

 

[tenordas]

Just have a team of 'elite' refs looking at any questionable flag in a control room in New York. They have access to all the replays and angles. They can call the head ref on any flag and overturn the call on the field.

It isn't rocket science. This could be fixed in one weekend.

That is the obvious, easy answer, of course.

But I can tell you the obvious reason the NFL will not do such a thing in one word: Vegas.

 

[saintfan1972]

I’ve coached at the level you specified alone, for just about 20 seasons I know exactly what you’re talking about. And let me tell you. Levels above and below, better officiating than at the HS level, I’ve never seen so much inept guesses and not knowing the rules than at this particular level, and I’ve found it’s gotten worse and worse over the last decade to the point where I am up here, there is an officiating shortage.

I’ve had to file multiple complaints to my leagues, including one play just in 2022 where an opposing receiver literally dropped the pass, never even came close to possessing it, the ball was on ground 4 feet away from him o the ground he goes to grab the ball to give to The official and the official who was right there decided to rule it a catch!

There is an EPIDEMIC of refs calling what they “think” they see instead of what they actually see. I can understand that there is speed in this game and a lot of times you see the body language, but simply put, if you didn’t actually see the violation of the rules, don’t call it!

Then that opens it up the point people make which I agree with, everything should be reviewable, because if you take the approach that things aren’t above being reviewed, and the officials are “always right” then they deserve extreme criticism for their flagrant lack of professionalism in doing their correct job.

As your example of HS, here is where I have no sympathy, if I’m putting in 30 hours of prep and practice a week for these games I expect the officials to show up and do their job too. As the levels get higher the expectation should as well

Agree with you 100%. When I called, if I missed something it would literally make me sick to my stomach. Coaches living depend on it. Kids put the work in. Officials should be prepared. I took pride in being ready. Did I get everything. No. But you have to know the rules.
My interpretation of a hold may be different than yours, but get the obvious. The pass you described. Got to get that.

But that hit yesterday, as soon as I saw it I thought bad hit because the head snapped back. But replay showed perfect form. Replay would help those.

Reason I "retired" is because I got run over by the John Ehret QB and a West Monroe dlineman. Ribs killed me for a month. Sore for days. All for 90 bucks. I have to pay bills and can't afford to get hurt doing something that's very under appreciate.


I feel your disgust. I've seen it first hand. Just know not all do bad. But a few bad apples ruin the whole bunch.