The stats on Jarvis Landry (1 Viewer)

[bclemms]

Let me start off by saying Landry is a damn good football player. He is kind of like a poor man's Boldin or Hines Ward. Not a tall or fast guy with great leaping ability but just gritty as hell. I'd love to have a bunch of guys like him on my team if I was an NFL coach.


Landry had 160 targets last season. Only Deadre Hopkins, Antonio Brown and Larry Fitzgerald had more.

He led the league in receptions. Yep, caught more than anyone.

He was 7th in the league in first down receptions. Yep, only 6 players had more first down receptions.

He is a very good to great blocker.



Looks good right?

Here's the problem.
He led the NFL in catches and didn't break 1000 yards.
He had 160 targets last season and didn't break 1000 yards.
His first down catch percentage compared to his targets is among the worst in the league.
Landry was 108th in the NFL in yards per catch, his yards per attempt is even worse.



To try and put in perspective just how statistically off he is compared to the other guys in the top 5 of targets, here are the yards of the other 4 guys. 1378, 1533, 1156, 1393 and then Landry comes in at 987.

I know, Jay Cutler was throwing the ball to him. He didn't have the luxury of playing with guys like Tom Savage or Drew Stanton like Fitz or Hopkins did. <---See what I did there?


At the end of the day, I would love to have Jarvis Landry. I really wanted to draft him out of LSU but not in the early rounds. I would love to have him on the Saints but not at a premium price. You pay big money to the guys that can go out and make big plays, guys that demand double coverage, guys that can beat man coverage. That isn't Landry. He's basically a really tough gimmick guy. A guy you throw WR screens to or a guy you use to block on WR screens. He's a guy you can throw an out pass to and not have to worry about anyone else coming away with the ball. He's not a good leaper, he doesn't have a long frame but he'll out physical whoever he is playing for the ball as long as it is inside his catch radius. He doesn't have the speed to run double routes, he isn't a guy that you can run deep ins with. You can throw him the 50/50 ball but you are going to get 50/50 out of it. He can catch the back shoulder pass but you don't pay the big bucks to receivers for back shoulder balls.

I'd love the guy to be a 3rd/4th WR. He'd be one of the best in the business doing it but he isn't worth the money he is about to get.


I'd much rather someone that can create separation. Someone that can go deep and stretch the defense. It's something we lack after Ginn and Ginn isn't getting younger.

 

[Outbackjack]

Very interesting.

A deeper look into the numbers tells a story.

 

[Slaw]

I agree 100%. I love Landry, but he is going to get overpaid. If he was considered a mid-tier free agent, then I would be all for it. He's not worth 10+ million a year. Especially not in our offense.

 

[Taker597]

I feel like we need someone like a Watkins than a Landry.

 

[wesleyTX13]

Ryan Tannehill, Matt Moore, and Jay Cutler. Look who has been throwing to him in his career and tell me that it wouldn’t be better with Drew Brees. He is the only player in NFL history to catch 400 balls in his first 4 seasons. We need someone who will help us on third down and he would definitely do that. He’s also a talented punt returner.

 

[bclemms]

I feel like we need someone like a Watkins than a Landry.

The odds of Watkins coming here is very slim. He's going to get a lot of money and has #1 talent. From what I've read he also has some attitude problems in his history. A combo that isn't likely to land him in NOLA. Plus the Rams gave up a lot to get him, they will give up a lot to keep him.

Paul Richardson and Donte Montcrief would be a couple guys I'd really like to have and would fit in this offense really well. The market for them will be quite interesting.

The guy I really hope we take a shot on is Brian Quick. He is a big frame, big body, physical receiver that has a great catch radius and catches everything. He can run and jump as well. Reminds me a lot of some big name receivers but for some reason has never really been able to stay on the field. With the Rams he was rarely thrown to but when he did he produced. Then last season he signed with the Redskins but was buried on the depth chart behind a bunch of very good receivers.

I feel like if he's give the chance with a good QB could be really good for a couple years.

 

[SweetT]

Agreed. Love me some Juice, but we can find someone else to give us the production that we need. BClemms how do you feel about Paul Richardson? He&#8217;s the guy that I think would fit nicely. &#55357;&#56390;&#55356;&#57340;Just read your above post. Glad we are on the same page with PR, I still have doubts about Moncreif tho

 

[HogsNSaints]

I actually like that I, the Razorback fan, will be the defender of Landry, the LSU alum.

I think Landry's frustrations with Miami basically boil down to his utilization as a safety valve. Adam Gase's offenses have ALWAYS prioritized a "prototype" WR as the #1 (Demaryious Thomas, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery). That's what they thought they were getting with Devante Parker. The playcalling caters to Parker as the 1, with Landry as the safety valve. It's Parker challenging defenses vertically, or being the first read in goal to go pass plays, though Landry is the far more talented WR IMO. I think when their offense went stagnant Landry & Ajayi's frustrations with Gase were because he typecasts players and improperly utilizes the talents of his roster.. Landry is better than his Miami days show.

 

[dutar76]

heck... Landry could do himself a favor and sign a one or two year cheap deal with us to show the world what he can do utilized right. I'll use this (which I know will be unpopular) example. Christian McCaffrey... In an offense that doesn't know how to use him, he's a RB3flex as far as #'s go. In New Orleans, he'd have been a RB2 at worse, but likely a RB1. Those are fantasy designations, but we are talking #'s here.

Landry lined up opposite Michael Thomas would be a 90 catch 1200 yard 8 TD WR at worst... and Thomas' numbers would grow as well.

 

[HogsNSaints]

Landry lined up opposite Michael Thomas would be a 90 catch 1200 yard 8 TD WR at worst.

I disagree. He wouldn't be a statistical monster in New Orleans. He'd play the slot and be an upgraded version of '15/'16 Willie Snead. He'd catch 65-75 balls and half of them would be first downs. That's what the offense would need of him and he'd be elite at the role. If he wants the numbers NO isn't the place for him. If he wants a championship, he would push the offense to the next level.

 

[Saint Kamara]

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I actually like that I, the Razorback fan, will be the defender of Landry, the LSU alum.

I think Landry's frustrations with Miami basically boil down to his utilization as a safety valve. Adam Gase's offenses have ALWAYS prioritized a "prototype" WR as the #1 (Demaryious Thomas, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery). That's what they thought they were getting with Devante Parker. The playcalling caters to Parker as the 1, with Landry as the safety valve. It's Parker challenging defenses vertically, or being the first read in goal to go pass plays, though Landry is the far more talented WR IMO. I think when their offense went stagnant Landry & Ajayi's frustrations with Gase were because he typecasts players and improperly utilizes the talents of his roster.. Landry is better than his Miami days show.

Well said.

Totally agree.

Here is a blind reveal that will open some eyes:

Player 1: 204 catches, 2293 yards, 11.2 YPR (2015-2016 seasons)
Player 2: 196 catches, 2382 yards, 12.2 YPR (2016-2017 seasons)

Player 1 is Jarvis Landry and Player 2 is Michael Thomas.

Drew Brees can allow Landry to have much better YAC yards and increase his YPR by at least 1 yard over the average shown above.

Over the last 2 seasons, Landry had 13 TDs, Thomas has 14.

Landry can return punts effectively. Something we badly need.

 

[DoMePaTrolleR]

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Well said.

Totally agree.

Here is a blind reveal that will open some eyes:

Player 1: 204 catches, 2293 yards, 11.2 YPR (2015-2016 seasons)
Player 2: 196 catches, 2382 yards, 12.2 YPR (2016-2017 seasons)

Player 1 is Jarvis Landry and Player 2 is Michael Thomas.

Drew Brees can allow Landry to have much better YAC yards and increase his YPR by at least 1 yard over the average shown above.

Over the last 2 seasons, Landry had 13 TDs, Thomas has 14.

Landry can return punts effectively. Something we badly need.

Was waiting for someone to bring this up reading through this. Nice post! Landry would be unstoppable in a role where he's defenses 3rd option instead of being double teamed. When the Patriots played them Belicheck sole focus was to take Landry out of the game and he's on NFL Films doing it. Here defenses would be worried about Thomas and Kamara in the passing game along with our top rushing offense. Not to mention Brees would be throwing him the ball with Landry playing out of the slot where he thrives. As others would impact his game he would open up things for the rest of the offense as well. As you said he would also give us a great punt returner with arguably the most reliable hands in the NFL.. if I had to guess Landry will be a NY Giant next year joining Odell Beckham and creating a pretty amazing WR duo there as well. Would love to sign him but not top WR $.

 

[Slaw]

The Brandin Cooks trade proves that this offense is not going to have 2 WRs on big contracts. Thomas is our guy. The other WRs will be mid tier free agents or draft picks.

Jarvis Landry and Willie Snead are extremely similar receivers. They are the same size, the same age, and have many of the same strengths. Snead will be a fraction of the price and at 25 years old, I don't see why he can't return to form. I believe in Willie!

Austin Carr has a similar skill set as well. If we sign or draft a WR, I think it will be a speed guy to compete with and eventually replace Ginn. If Ginn goes down, we are down to Tommylee Lewis as the only guy who can come in and somewhat stretch the field vertically. Ginn will be 33 years old in April.

 

[bclemms]

Was waiting for someone to bring this up reading through this. Nice post! Landry would be unstoppable in a role where he's defenses 3rd option instead of being double teamed. When the Patriots played them Belicheck sole focus was to take Landry out of the game and he's on NFL Films doing it. Here defenses would be worried about Thomas and Kamara in the passing game along with our top rushing offense. Not to mention Brees would be throwing him the ball with Landry playing out of the slot where he thrives. As others would impact his game he would open up things for the rest of the offense as well. As you said he would also give us a great punt returner with arguably the most reliable hands in the NFL.. if I had to guess Landry will be a NY Giant next year joining Odell Beckham and creating a pretty amazing WR duo there as well. Would love to sign him but not top WR $.

I was also waiting for someone to bring up his TD numbers. He's had 4 pass TD's on a shovel pass in the last two years. A couple more on a reverse motion then peel back for wide open swing passes. Take those away and his TD numbers are pretty depressing.

Landry reminds me of a really good 3rd down back that plays WR.

Again, I love the guy. Love his attitude, the way he plays full throttle all the time, how he just outworks everyone else. The guy is a stud.

Someone is going to pay him a TON of money. It shouldn't be us.

 

[LetsGetWaffles]

Could the lack of YAC and yards total have more to do w the play schemes and defensive strategy more than his in ability? When a D knows someone is going to get the ball, they double him up or use bracket covereage to stop the big play. Remember how Sproles looked his last year w us?