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Sailorsaint said:
Is this Exxon Valdez level pollution?
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No, there probably isn't any, or if any, very much oil aboard them.

The good news. Oil tankers of any size generally don't sink unless they happen to not be filled with oil at the time. Both of them were reported to have sunk, ergo they were not filled with oil.

I looked them up, looking one up was about like looking the other up, two sister coastwise workboats. I'm not completely sure of it due to not having very much information to go on, but it appears they were both built in 1973.

They aren't actually large enough to quite be called ships, although some folks will call them ships. The difference between these two lumped together and the Exxon Valdez, is that the Valdez is about 40 thousand times larger.

What I think is that some Russian company with two or more really old coastwise petroleum delivery boats scraped two of them at sea. Pollution laws bedamned, they saved themselves lots of money.

I doubt that anything will ever be done about it because this kind of behaviour isn't all that unusual.
 
SamAndreas said:
No, there probably isn't any, or if any, very much oil aboard them.

The good news. Oil tankers of any size generally don't sink unless they happen to not be filled with oil at the time. Both of them were reported to have sunk, ergo they were not filled with oil.

I looked them up, looking one up was about like looking the other up, two sister coastwise workboats. I'm not completely sure of it due to not having very much information to go on, but it appears they were both built in 1973.

They aren't actually large enough to quite be called ships, although some folks will call them ships. The difference between these two lumped together and the Exxon Valdez, is that the Valdez is about 40 thousand times larger.

What I think is that some Russian company with two or more really old coastwise petroleum delivery boats scraped two of them at sea. Pollution laws bedamned, they saved themselves lots of money.

I doubt that anything will ever be done about it because this kind of behaviour isn't all that unusual.
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They are "river" tankers....designed for transporting the Volga River system.

They are 16 years PAST their expiration date ( built in 1969, should have been retired in 2008 ...but Russia...kept issuing renewal certification)

Good , short and informative thread here.

 
efil4stnias said:
They are "river" tankers....designed for transporting the Volga River system.

They are 16 years PAST their expiration date ( built in 1969, should have been retired in 2008 ...but Russia...kept issuing renewal certification)

Good , short and informative thread here.

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I think I might have better information than Chris O. They look like fine 5,000 ton open ocean work boats to me.

They are 50 years old, and 50 years is the life of a work boat.

Sure they would run up and down rivers. That's where they would make fuel deliveries. A boat like that can cross an open sea.

I also think they are a bit newer than the sixties, like 1973. That's still fifty years, the life of a boat like that.
 
clip of a Ukraine SOF op. Mine road, disable and destroy.

 
First videos emerging of the NK troops frontal assault with no mechanized or arty support.

I dont exactly know how these men agree to do this.

 

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