Underhill on Payton (1 Viewer)

[No2DC]

He's on vacation and I don't think this season is worse than the one he was forced to sit.

 

[Superfan]

I guess when times get hard you just quit. Having a hof qb spoiled him if true. Sell the farm and get your qb

 

[Broad St. Saint]

Getting old is hard and he's now had COVID twice in the last 2 years, a stressful season (hurricane, NFL double standards, post-Brees). I don't think he'll retire this month or something, but I agree with those who think he might do so in 2026 at say age 60, which is sadly not too long from now.

 

[SystemShock]

Underhill mildly suggested that Payton may just be burned out from the season and has gone away some place to chill away from public eye. He thinks this last season was extraordinarily stressful. Things wil become clearer during Senior Bowl week. This is all from a Podcast on the subscriber account. I get real good insights from it.

His insight is this: He will be around 60 when his contract is up. He may go the Brees route into broadcasting. He also suggest that Payton and Loomis who is older may go out together. Jeff Ireland and Dennis Allen could be waiting in the wings to fill their jobs and provide continuity.

How's that "insight"?

 

[Super44]

If anyone thinks it is bad after Brees, imagine what to think what it will be after Payton, should it happen now! Sorry, just being real.

 

[Super44]

How's that "insight"?

Zero insight. It is a fact. Underhill is just spewing facts every fan with an ounce of awareness, already knows.

 

[St. Widge]

Now if it's nick underhill i'll listen and all of that seems reasonable to me. I believe we have a strong foundation for continued success.

I agree and I'll use this as an opportunity to urge all Saints fans to subscribe to Nick's website: https://neworleans.football/

Nick has great insight on the team, good sources, knows how to analyze film, and is a good writer. Moreover, he is a good human being who has done a lot of charity work in the community and came back from his gigg in Boston because he loves New Orleans.

 

[St. Widge]

The ironic thing, and I’m not singling you out, is Nick is not offering insight different from Ian. There are reasons for this—Nick has built up equity and shown himself to be very credible without the sensationalism. But I want to point out that Ian’s reporting, at least in this case, was not wrong. Nick would be the first to say that Ian is not a bad guy or reporter—just someone who maybe jumps the gun and like a lot of the national media, does everything with a tad more sensationalism.

It's the way that Ian wrote the article and the conclusions he drew that was the issue. As you say, Nick doesn't write sensationalist stuff and he does not speculate without making it clear he is speculating.

 

[town123]

Is it too late to trade SP to the Boys for three 1sts and Parsons? ....

 

[St. Widge]

Fletch

Shouldn't Fletcher be busy on the NBA Trade Machine making up trades where the Pelicans trade for big white guys that can shoot?

 

[St. Widge]

By the way, this is what Nick had to say about this on Twitter:

 

[Loco Hornet Fan]

The ironic thing, and I’m not singling you out, is Nick is not offering insight different from Ian. There are reasons for this—Nick has built up equity and shown himself to be very credible without the sensationalism. But I want to point out that Ian’s reporting, at least in this case, was not wrong. Nick would be the first to say that Ian is not a bad guy or reporter—just someone who maybe jumps the gun and like a lot of the national media, does everything with a tad more sensationalism.

Wait, what?

Ian and Underhill’s reports were very different. As you said, one was way more sensationalist than the other.

We don’t know for certain if Ian’s report is wrong yet, but at this point in time, it is most certainly sensationalist/clickbait.

“Ian is not a bad reporter…he is just someone who jumps the gun…with a tad more sensationalism.” is also a pretty generous description of him.

That “reporter” has literally been reporting that Payton was leaving since 2015 (multiple reports across multiple years).

 

[jayd265]

Not looking forward to life after Payton.

Life after brees is bad enough

 

[breesgirl]

Dude is just on vacation after a ridiculously challenging season. He's not running away from a "rebuild" because Brees retired last season...that's the last thing a person like him would do.

I completely agree.

Also, fans have always lamented how loyal Payton is. How he keeps players and personnel beyond their usefulness. I seriously doubt he’d leave the Saints high and dry w/out any notice or succession plan despite them sticking w/him through the thickest of thins. Payton has a loyalty to the people in the front office, the fans and city of NOLA.

I firmly believe Payton would do all he could to ensure this organization remains competitive after his departure. He cares about his legacy.

Sean may not coach after this current contract, but I doubt he’s done right now.