USMNT - ‘23 and beyond (2 Viewers)

[efil4stnias]

HAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Classic USSF propaganda.

"I dont want to coach the USMNT"


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"US soccer remains interested".

See, this is how they manipulate the news cycles. We tried to get Klopp, then we did a bunch of ACT and SAT tests, ran 3 decathlons, then we did a rubix cube for time, stacked a bunch of cups.....and Bruce Arena came out on top.

and now we see why no USSF press conference.

for a fleeting moment i thought "they might get this right"

that moment has now passed.

We are going to end up with an interim thru 2026.

I have to now think that the issues within USSF are much more apparent to prospective hires.

 

[Beast]

Sounds like US Soccer Fed need to increase the offer:

Klopp rebuffs approach to coach USMNT

The German left Liverpool in May, citing 'running out of energy'

www.nytimes.com

If I’m Klopp, no way I take any first offer. Odds are it was low. He’s already cited wanting time away. USFF would have to make it worth my while. He’d already stayed longer at Liverpool than anticipated. I’m sure his wife wants some of his time as well for them to enjoy life.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

If I’m Klopp, no way I take any first offer. Odds are it was low. He’s already cited wanting time away. USFF would have to make it worth my while. He’d already stayed longer at Liverpool than anticipated. I’m sure his wife wants some of his time as well for them to enjoy life.

Hopefully no one tells his wife the training facility is in Atlanta

 

[44slayer]

USSF could give him off till the January camp. Thats 6 more months off. They can have a handshake agreement and USSF can "look for coaches" until then without announcing anything. Appoint an interim for the 2 September fixtures, and that October game is going to be C/D squad guys anyway. The salary would make more sense in that he would only be at the helm from Jan 25 to Jul 26. An 18 month job then he can take another year or 2 off afterwards and say he coached the US in a WC on home soil.

Its just pipe dream stuff with Klopp though. Sounds like he put that to bed and the only folks interested in keeping it alive is USSF, just so they can hire their next version of Berhalter and say they tried to get a big name.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

 

[efil4stnias]

Jessie doing his part by telling everyone exactly where the "rot" is.

Just knew that hiring prospects knew about the issues within USSF. Now, with this, it all but confirms and advertises to all.

We gonna end up with someone from within....a yes guy willing to tote the company line for an opportunity to add to resume. My guess now is Cherundelo.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Jessie doing his part by telling everyone exactly where the "rot" is.

Just knew that hiring prospects knew about the issues within USSF. Now, with this, it all but confirms and advertises to all.

We gonna end up with someone from within....a yes guy willing to tote the company line for an opportunity to add to resume. My guess now is Cherundelo.

Crocker seemed to indicate that he didn’t have much say in last process (and that $ was a salary concern)
And, uswnt got Emma Hayes and she doesn’t seem to have much connection to ussf (I know men’s game -> boys soccer is … different)
But those are the straws I’m grasping

I’m now putting my nonexistent money on Renard as compromise choice

 

[DaveXA]

He basically told US soccer to fix their sheet. Lol. He's not wrong.

 

[44slayer]

He basically told US soccer to fix their sheet. Lol. He's not wrong.

No, he is not wrong.


But he didn’t tell them to fix their sheet. “Big shift” involves a complete restructure. “They” are the power. They aren’t going to give that up. The disease is set in.

I’ll roll with GM saying that they brought in Emma Hayes as proof they’ll go outside. But they’ve hired well on that side outside of Vlatko.

It’s going to be a MLS guy. Garber sees an opening.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

No, he is not wrong.


But he didn’t tell them to fix their sheet. “Big shift” involves a complete restructure. “They” are the power. They aren’t going to give that up. The disease is set in.

I’ll roll with GM saying that they brought in Emma Hayes as proof they’ll go outside. But they’ve hired well on that side outside of Vlatko.

It’s going to be a MLS guy. Garber sees an opening.

The other straw I’ll grab is how loud and targeted the ‘fire greggg’ crowd was - all fans, all pundits that I saw, most ex-players were unified about the need for change
Those voices will not be dated by an MLS promotion
While the USSF certainly wants control, part of that is avoiding scrutiny. Hiring a yes man just begs for actual investigative reporting and the US in entering a phase of the world’s soccer attention being on it
National and international reporters would relish the opportunity to platform an anti-USSF position

That’s why I was say Renard is the concession pick - someone to placate those who want an outsider, but probably non enough clout to wrest much institutional control

 

[superchuck500]

He might have had a different view back in the spring.

 

[efil4stnias]

No, he is not wrong.


But he didn’t tell them to fix their sheet. “Big shift” involves a complete restructure. “They” are the power. They aren’t going to give that up. The disease is set in.

I’ll roll with GM saying that they brought in Emma Hayes as proof they’ll go outside. But they’ve hired well on that side outside of Vlatko.

It’s going to be a MLS guy. Garber sees an opening.

It's becoming more evident that USSF and MLS are effectively tied at the hip.

USSF is MLS marketing vehicle and attemp to bring it into international conversation.

The change that needs to happen is a complete separation. USSF needs to remove itself from MLS ties and let them fend for themselves. USSF can still run youth programs, as it should, but should not be mixing in decisions with regards to MLS.

They are attempting to be FA/EPL but when you have members that switch titles between the two, it makes it much harder to divest.

It will take years to purge this because as you said, no one looking to relinquish the power at this moment.

 

[efil4stnias]

Spains De la Fuente signals interest in US job?? Just saw a blurb about this...no way this can be real huh?

 

[IceHot]

Spains De la Fuente signals interest in US job?? Just saw a blurb about this...no way this can be real huh?

I think his recent contract with Spain runs thru 2026 perhaps his interest is for the next cycle. (not sure if their are reasonable opt out provisions)?

I am curious though do you think the USMNT contract will extend for the balance of this cycle plus the next cycle, a 6yr gig?

If not does limiting the job to a two year deal with many players you havent groomed limit our options considerably?

 

[efil4stnias]

I think his recent contract with Spain runs thru 2026 perhaps his interest is for the next cycle. (not sure if their are reasonable opt out provisions)?

I am curious though do you think the USMNT contract will extend for the balance of this cycle plus the next cycle, a 6yr gig?

If not does limiting the job to a two year deal with many players you havent groomed limit our options considerably?

I think it has to be 6 years to be attractive to larger names (and honestly what could one possibly do in just under 24 mo as you pointed to at the end above). If USSF is insistent on just thru 2026, then it almost guarantees an "in house" hire like Ramos or Cherundelo etc more as a caretaker vs manager.