Vehicle plows into crowd on Bourbon St., with 14 fatalities (24 Viewers)

[DerrickB]

The complete lack of guardrails around certain security related things that are very basic, are in fact a joke.

??

 

[bclemms]

Maybe he thought with it being an EV, if he crashed it the battery would catch fire and that would detonate the device.

EV’s are far less likely to catch fire in a crash than gas vehicles. That info is easily available on the internet and given the planning this took i would say extremely unlikely. Particularly since it has already been confirmed that they were remote capable.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

I was wondering the same thing. There apparently were 15 fatalities and 30+ injured. I would think some of those were from gunfire.

There definitely is a vetting process and it's not taken lightly at all. Whether the vetting process is sufficient can certainly be debated, but it's definitely part of the process.

The tiktok stuff is definitely a topic of discussion and debate, and there definitely are issues with corruption and other stuff that shouldn't be happening, but the military is a huge organization. With 1.3 million enlisted, and close to 3 million individuals work within the Department of Defense. Most take their jobs seriously, but there are a lot of knuckleheads among those 3 million people.

Some aspects are, sure, but it's really not any more of a joke than most large organizations.

There's a ton of security on any given military base, and there are extensive rules and regulations governing the behavior of both military and civilian employees not to mention contractors. That said, people are people and your security is only as good as the people responsible for said security.

I work for a very large global organization that continues to acquire more companies all the time. My company and its processes are a joke lol.

 

[Krodwhodat]

I find comments like this fascinating because for women, we always have to consider our safety when doing normal things like walking down a street, getting out of our car in our driveway, going for a jog, etc and guns don’t even have to be involved.

Other random thoughts I have/questions:

I wonder how many people were killed by the truck vs. like was he able to get any shots off and kill anyone with the gun? I know Krod said his brother was hit but seems like the police were there pretty quickly after impact/crash into the construction equipment. Maybe that’s been reported but I haven’t seen it yet.

The US military gives foreigners & their families the chance to become US citizens via a lottery where they also have to serve in the military. I don’t know what the vetting process is for that but seems like it can create opportunities for certain ideologies to creep in. Not to mention our own citizens with their radical beliefs.

People like to think the US military has their sheet on lock. I know people in the military doing certain drugs because the military doesn’t test for them. I know of a civilian working in a certain position looking up records of people in the service for their own personal entertainment which I won’t go into detail over. Military members are making tik-toks on bases and all kinds of really dumb stuff.

Honestly, our military is a joke. Not its capabilities but the lack of regulation on a lot of things and total lack of awareness around security and whatnot is really breathtaking.

My understanding is that he wasn’t planning on crashing and when he did my brother and 2 other officers were at his truck before he could react. Shooting started and my brother and the 2 other officers killed him while he hit my brother and another officer. I think the crane being there and the reaction of the police stopped him from unloading the assault rifle on civilians and detonating the bombs. This is the story I’m getting.

 

[Andrus]

 

[DaveXA]

The complete lack of guardrails around certain security related things that are very basic, are in fact a joke.

What specifically are you referring to? There are guardrails. Whether they're sufficient is debatable, but there definitely are rules dealing with social media, electronics for both civilian and military employees. I know because I am one.

 

[Andrus]

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

My understanding is that he wasn’t planning on crashing and when he did my brother and 2 other officers were at his truck before he could react. Shooting started and my brother and the 2 other officers killed him while he hit my brother and another officer. I think the crane being there and the reaction of the police stopped him from unloading the assault rifle on civilians and detonating the bombs. This is the story I’m getting.

Makes sense & seems logical.

 

[longtime lurker]

My understanding is that he wasn’t planning on crashing and when he did my brother and 2 other officers were at his truck before he could react. Shooting started and my brother and the 2 other officers killed him while he hit my brother and another officer. I think the crane being there and the reaction of the police stopped him from unloading the assault rifle on civilians and detonating the bombs. This is the story I’m getting.

Incredible…thank goodness for your bro’s and the other officers bravery.

 

[DoubleSaint]

News now calling it a "caliphate flag".

It’s an ISIS flag.

 

[DaveXA]

I work for a very large global organization that continues to acquire more companies all the time. My company and its processes are a joke lol.

No question lol. Been there and done that.

 

[Devildog]

ISIS flag and Islamic caliphate flag are the same thing.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

What specifically are you referring to? There are guardrails. Whether they're sufficient is debatable, but there definitely are rules dealing with social media, electronics for both civilian and military employees. I know because I am one.

exactly. There are guardrails but they are not sufficient.

 

[DaveXA]

exactly. There are guardrails but they are not sufficient.

Fair enough.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

Fair enough.

I can’t go into too much detail about people’s records and stuff like that. It’s too specific and some ppl know who I am and I’m not trying to get anyone fired (although I feel like they kind of should be bc the reason they are accessing records is truly pathetic and unethical) but I digress.