Vehicle plows into crowd on Bourbon St., with 14 fatalities (16 Viewers)

[Mr. Sparkle]

Is now the time to remind you where our state ranks in just about every important metric in the country?

No need. I feel like an idiot for choosing to live here (CHOOSING!) every day.

 

[superchuck500]

This is why I always book my trips with my AMEX.

Yeah definitely. Also their fine hotel program is awesome.

 

[efil4stnias]

he went on sidewalk at first (going around squad car), but he had 3 blocks of unobstructed driving correct?
and while i'm certainly in the camp to make (most of) The Quarter a pedestrian zone, not sure I want bollards on the sidewalk as well - for whatever reason that feels like it creates more problems than it solves

Just one on each side, that is up during events like this?

If you cant side-step a concrete bollard, then idk what to tell ya. Quit drinking?

 

[St. Widge]

I dont know why folks have such a hard time with Federal LE claiming "terror" when they havent all the info.

They cannot, unlike anonymous folks on twitter, proclaim "terror" based on a curled up flag with one character showing in photo.

my word.

You know why.

 

[0rion]

I suppose that makes sense but just seems like it would have been better for each to just get up there, give a brief statement to include condolences, how their office will remain involved/apprised of anything and then yield to let the FBI - who is leading the investigation to field questions. That presser went off the rails and they should all be embarrassed. LaToya did an alright job and seems to be more articulate than the others but even she was doing her puppetry.

I always get the feeling they're using 1000 words to really say nothing. I'd rather them get up there and say " we have no idea" than to word dance for 20 minutes

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Hope this went through

instincts are a weird thing - I saw maybe 3 people do something that always irks me in movies - in movies when someone is running away from a car they run 'away' in the same direction the car is heading. which seems the worst of 3 options, but instinctively (if the wiring is fleeing other animals attacking)
but I'm not going to fault people for not knowing what to do in a situation they have never encountered or even thought that much about probably

 

[St. Widge]

Just one on each side, that is up during events like this?

If you cant side-step a concrete bollard, then idk what to tell ya. Quit drinking?

It wouldn't be a problem most times, but on things like Mardi Gras Night or NYE, it could lead to people crushed into the bollards. After this it's probably time to do it, but I can see where there were considerations that made it seem like a bad idea before this happened.

And, FWIW, I have many times walked into the old green poles they used to have on the cross streets. But that did not stop me from drinking more.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Just one on each side, that is up during events like this?

If you cant side-step a concrete bollard, then idk what to tell ya. Quit drinking?

I think my concern is for those times (YEARS AGO) when I was on Bourbon and the crowd is just a teeming mass - where you're not really in control of where you're walking, just kind of riding the wave
more restrictions to that flow seems dangerous

 

[Dago]

What I'm reading is that he left the IED's in the coolers in the various places and people unknowingly moved them or were interacting with the coolers in some way but it has been determined that they are not associated with the terrorist.

Do they know what time those coolers were placed? Makes me shiver to think how many people (including myself and gf's family) may have been right by them without realizing it

 

[efil4stnias]

I think my concern is for those times (YEARS AGO) when I was on Bourbon and the crowd is just a teeming mass - where you're not really in control of where you're walking, just kind of riding the wave
more restrictions to that flow seems dangerous

point taken- are we talking bollards at every cross street from 100-say 800 Bourbon?

The mass of humanity that you speak of ( and I too have been in where you are simply going where the crowd is going lol ) is really relegated to around the 300-700 block- now i havent been in over 15 years to Bourbon on a night like this ( NYE/Mardi Gras/SuperBowl ) so i dont know if that has changed since then.

But having at least at Canal and Bourbon ?

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

Do they know what time those coolers were placed? Makes me shiver to think how many people (including myself and gf's family) may have been right by them without realizing it

I didn't see a timeline for it and also cannot confirm that this is even an accurate statement, just what I read somewhere. Until an official statement is made, I guess we don't really know for sure. On the surface it seems like a logical explanation but without confirmation, who knows.

Anyone know what the official source of truth is to the facts regarding the case? i.e. not an individual news outlet but does the FBI website post presser recaps and timelines, facts, etc?

 

[Sailorsaint]

As for maintenance on the retractable bollards...the problem is things getting stuck down in the gap, like Mardi Gras beads and various other things, am I correct? If that is a problem, why can't they just add a cap to them with a flange that fans out a few inches? Basically just a protection measure, and it would add a slight bump, like a speed strip when retracted. I've seen this in other places.

 

[Innominate]

It wouldn't be a problem most times, but on things like Mardi Gras Night or NYE, it could lead to people crushed into the bollards. After this it's probably time to do it, but I can see where there were considerations that made it seem like a bad idea before this happened.

And, FWIW, I have many times walked into the old green poles they used to have on the cross streets. But that did not stop me from drinking more.

One Mardi Gras my friend had his arm wrapped around a poll to help stand his ground because the crowd was sidewalk to sidewalk. His arm was pinned by the crowd and the crowd on the sidewalk started to flow in the other direction. He thought his shoulder was going to get pulled out of socket. He was finally able to free his arm.

 

[Krodwhodat]

It's wild to think that I spent NYE eating with my family at Brasos at Canal Place last night, drove home after watching fireworks on the Moonwalk, and I woke up to this today. I'm honestly filled with rage...

NOPD heroes (pic).

That’s my brother and my hero!!!!

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

point taken- are we talking bollards at every cross street from 100-say 800 Bourbon?

The mass of humanity that you speak of ( and I too have been in where you are simply going where the crowd is going lol ) is really relegated to around the 300-700 block- now i havent been in over 15 years to Bourbon on a night like this ( NYE/Mardi Gras/SuperBowl ) so i dont know if that has changed since then.

But having at least at Canal and Bourbon ?

As long as you have a way to remove the bollard ASAP to let the fire dept/police dept/EMS through - which is how we got here in the first place - permanent bollards prevent legit traffic from entering the street and the collapsible ones got gummed up with beads and FQ funk.