We’re close - not rebuilding (1 Viewer)

[Que Que 6]

I do not have a definite source, but he has been invited to interview for several HC openings. How you view that is up to you.

Lions DC Aaron Glenn voted top coordinator in NFLPA survey

Lions DC Aaron Glenn voted top coordinator in an NFLPA survey of over 750 players

lionswire.usatoday.com

LOL. Whenever someone starts off with, "no offense, not trying to be combative, etc" u shouldn't even bother giving it a reply.

 

[No2DC]

I'm not sure why people think Loomis is suddenly power obsessed bad guy. He's the same guy he has always been. He even gives DA equal voice in picks which he probably shouldn't do outside of DBs. And from what Underhill and others have said, Ireland pretty much so runs the draft in rounds 3 through 7.

He may not be power-obsessed, but he sure does like doubling down on dumb decisions and, at this point, refuses to admit he was wrong.

 

[504gks]

While ML has the final say in the draft I can't ever hear that he wanted someone over Sean and they went with what ML wanted. ML does not really make the draft decisions. I think it was Payton making most of the bad draft decisions in the last few yrs before he left like Davenport
Any player drafted 4th rd or after is a shot in the dark, so if you hit that's great, if you don't well no big deal. Drafting seemed to improve after SP left. Only looking at the 1st 3 rds. 22 Olave , Penning , Taylor. Looking at it now not a bad draft 2 1sts and a 2nd. while we had to give up a bit much for that 2nd 1st and to move up for Olave might have been a bit much the picks were fine.
23 Bresse , a really good pick for #29 Foskey, not great but it's still only his 2nd yr, Miller, still TBD he's shown flashes but needs to stay healthy.
24 , Fuaga if he continues to improve he could be a cornerstone LT . Kool-Aid, TBD but we're gonna find out with Adedo going down and Taylor moving outside

 

[DSnfla]

LOL. Whenever someone starts off with, "no offense, not trying to be combative, etc" u shouldn't even bother giving it a reply.

That's about as ridiculous statement as I can remember. What it means is that someone made a statement that may not be agreed with and they would like proof. It also means that they are listening to you and are open to being wrong if validation can be shown. SMH some people

 

[Hubig]

He may not be power-obsessed, but he sure does like doubling down on dumb decisions and, at this point, refuses to admit he was wrong.

That and the Benson empire is cursed, there is no other way to explain it.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

We're not close. We're not close at all. We're miles away from being close. All of our best players are from the Payton Era. Kamara, McCoy, Lattimore, Davis,

We've drafted, two or three people over the last 3 years that look promising. Bresee, Fuaga, Penning. Even Olave is questionable at this point. He's some of the best talent, but it seems like the coaching staff isn't trying to get him the ball, or he's not trying. Something is really, really off there and its hard to put my finger on it. Olave should, and would be rivaling many of the best WR's in the league if he were on an above average team. But he's not, and seems miles away from it.

That's not even getting into the coaching game planning and failure to adjust during a game, or make effective halftime adjustments.

I'm afraid to say it, but we're a snowball on the top of a big hill. Last year we were put on the ground, this year we're slowly beginning to move downhill, slowly picking up speed, and slowly getting bigger to become a massive trainwreck.

 

[Que Que 6]

That's about as ridiculous statement as I can remember. What it means is that someone made a statement that may not be agreed with and they would like proof. It also means that they are listening to you and are open to being wrong if validation can be shown. SMH some people

99% of the time it is g-a-s-l-i-g-h-t-i-n-g. LOL.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

I do not have a definite source, but he has been invited to interview for several HC openings. How you view that is up to you.

Lions DC Aaron Glenn voted top coordinator in NFLPA survey

Lions DC Aaron Glenn voted top coordinator in an NFLPA survey of over 750 players

lionswire.usatoday.com

I think Glenn could potentially be a good HC. That doesn't mean he WILL BE. We've seen many players work their way up coaching, to flounder when they take over the HC job. It's happening to Jerod Mayo and Antonio Pierce right now.

But Glenn definitely deserves a shot and could surprise many couch coaches like us.

Many may disagree with me here, but I fully believe Brees would make an excellent GM, to the likings of John Lynch.

 

[St. Widge]

He may not be power-obsessed, but he sure does like doubling down on dumb decisions and, at this point, refuses to admit he was wrong.

I fail to see how giving a head coach 3 full years to succeed, which is very standard in the NFL, is refusing to admit he was wrong. If it continues past this year you might have a point.

Personally, I would have let DA go after his first year, but there are many good reasons nobody should hire me as an NFL GM and teams that fire coaches after one year have trouble getting good coaches and get a rep for being bad people to work for.

Loomis isn't perfect and has his issues, but I think a guy that did hire Payton, signed Brees, and guided this team through a highly successful 15 to 20 year period that included two NFC Championship appearances (should have been 3) and 1 Super Bowl win probably deserves to make more than one head coach hire post a HoF coach leaving before you throw him out. I think those 15 to 20 successful years have earned him that.

 

[parlorcitysaint]

We're close... Close to what?

My faith in the current administration tells me (and so does our record) that were closer to the bottom than we are the top.

 

[No2DC]

I think Glenn could potentially be a good HC. That doesn't mean he WILL BE. We've seen many players work their way up coaching, to flounder when they take over the HC job. It's happening to Jerod Mayo and Antonio Pierce right now.

But Glenn definitely deserves a shot and could surprise many couch coaches like us.

Many may disagree with me here, but I fully believe Brees would make an excellent GM, to the likings of John Lynch.

I was not saying that Glenn should be the guy only responding to someone mentioning Glenn. Obviously, you do not know until the guy is hired and has at least a couple of years under his belt. Why do you believe Brees would be a good GM? Lynch came out and had no previous FO experience.

 

[No2DC]

I fail to see how giving a head coach 3 full years to succeed, which is very standard in the NFL, is refusing to admit he was wrong. If it continues past this year you might have a point.

Personally, I would have let DA go after his first year, but there are many good reasons nobody should hire me as an NFL GM and teams that fire coaches after one year have trouble getting good coaches and get a rep for being bad people to work for.

Loomis isn't perfect and has his issues, but I think a guy that did hire Payton, signed Brees, and guided this team through a highly successful 15 to 20 year period that included two NFC Championship appearances (should have been 3) and 1 Super Bowl win probably deserves to make more than one head coach hire post a HoF coach leaving before you throw him out. I think those 15 to 20 successful years have earned him that.

He was a losing coach when he hired him, and he didn't even go to another regime to learn something new. There was no indicator that he was different than his Oakland experience. I've never been a fan of in-house hires because they rarely work; that's why letting it play out with the deer was illogical. If a person was previously incarcerated, giving someone another chance is fine, but if they start repeating their old ways, it's obvious they haven't learned their lesson. People keep trying to analyze the deer without the proper context; this is who he is. He is a terrible HC. Several guys have gotten fired on their first try.

 

[DSnfla]

I think Glenn could potentially be a good HC. That doesn't mean he WILL BE. We've seen many players work their way up coaching, to flounder when they take over the HC job. It's happening to Jerod Mayo and Antonio Pierce right now.

But Glenn definitely deserves a shot and could surprise many couch coaches like us.

Many may disagree with me here, but I fully believe Brees would make an excellent GM, to the likings of John Lynch.

That article is an NFLPA player poll. Kind of like a popularity thing. Most of the Lions success is because of the offensive side of the ball. The lions are not even a top 15 D. Glenn may wind up being a good HC but I don't think he has the IT factor like someone suggested or really any overwhelming things that jump out at you

 

[DSnfla]

He was a losing coach when he hired him, and he didn't even go to another regime to learn something new. There was no indicator that he was different than his Oakland experience. I've never been a fan of in-house hires because they rarely work; that's why letting it play out with the deer was illogical. If a person was previously incarcerated, giving someone another chance is fine, but if they start repeating their old ways, it's obvious they haven't learned their lesson. People keep trying to analyze the deer without the proper context; this is who he is. He is a terrible HC. Several guys have gotten fired on their first try.

Belichick had a losing record @ Cleve. Pete Carrol had a losing record @ NYJ. Not saying DA is going to turn out like them and personally I would like a better HC but the Raiders have been a dumpster fire as an organization for decades so his tenure there is not the most accurate

 

[solarbear88]

They are guaranteed contracts-Never should have resigned Ram. His Knee was bad then, but just like now ,we refuse to accept reality. Hopefully, Kamara wont be playing like Jordan washed up with guaranteed cash. MT may be worth signing cheap

Essentially they took the money they'd have to pay to keep Kamara next year and spread it out over a couple. It was smart for them and him.