Why do some men behave badly? (10 Viewers)

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sonicboom said:
Why isn't this thread considered sexist?

Is it normal to bash men, and taboo to say, anything negative towards woman?

Just checking. Need clarification.
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I'm just sitting here with bated breath waiting to see what's going to happen when everyone finally wanders over from the UnitedHealth thread


 
guidomerkinsrules said:
I’ve confronted this topic a lot
one bit of research referred to is at the '***hole gene' - it argued that there has been historical advantage for 'iconoclastic' decision making
it's probably helped win battles and defend castles as well as help make scientific discovers and new artistic expressions
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One thing my girlfriend says is that "sometimes you need an ***hole on your team"

The example she uses is as an agent.

You're an artist or an athlete, you just want to sing or play or whatever and want everyone to like you"

You need someone who will tell your team/label "take this insulting offer and shove it up your ***! And don't you dare call me again until this number is at least tripled!!!"
 
Optimus Prime said:
One thing my girlfriend says is that "sometimes you need an ***hole on your team"

The example she uses is as an agent.

You're an artist or an athlete, you just want to sing or play or whatever and want everyone to like you"

You need someone who will tell your team/label "take this insulting offer and shove it up your ***! And don't you dare call me again until this number is at least tripled!!!"
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Yes there is something to SouthPark’s ‘d*cks, ***holes and p*ssies’ theory
 
Guess this can go here
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A creature of various talents, and the owner of at least three types of shirt, the Great American Bro can take different forms.

The finance bro, for example, favours a Patagonia power vest over his button-ups.

The brocialist still thinks Bernie would have won.

The gym bro likes to wear the tightest vest he can find, and has biceps you can crack a walnut with.

Whatever his particular vibe, however, the bro is a pack animal, most comfortable when surrounded with a group of people who look and act just like him.

And, increasingly, he has no problem finding those people. 2024 was the year of the bro: from pop culture to politics, bros were everywhere.

One viral hit of the summer, for example, was a catchy anthem about finance bros. (The lyrics: “I’m looking for a man in finance, with a trust fund, six-five, blue eyes, finance …”) Once derided as Patrick Bateman types, finance bros suddenly became a hot commodity on the dating scene.

As did the sports bro. Taylor Swift has tended to couple up with musicians and actors: her last serious relationship was with the impeccably dressed, politically conscious English actor Joe Alwyn. This year, however, Swift has had Travis Kelce, a big, brawny, football bro, on her arm…..

I don’t want to be accused of bro-scrimination, so, before I continue, an important disclaimer. Terms that lump a large group of people together under one label are always going to be overly simplistic.

However, they can be a useful way of charting and explaining shifting social trends. 1999-2009, for example, was the decade of the hipster – although, of course, they lingered, with diminishing social capital, for years after.

Hipsters, the first real post-internet subculture, were seen as a reaction to mass consumerism.

But counter-cultures are inevitably commodified. As the hipster became mainstream, the parameters of what was considered anti-establishment shifted.

In a 2014 piece about the “end of the hipster”, the futurist Chris Sanderson predicted the male hipster would have an image overhaul.

“There will be a downturn in this skinny-jean, long-haired feminised look over the next few years owing to the rise of the stronger female role model,” Sanderson hypothesized.

In its place would rise “a more macho look, almost to the point of caricature, in a bid for men to reinforce their identity”. Which pretty much nails the gym-obsessed, hyper-masculine, woke-loathing iteration of today’s bro……

www.theguardian.com

Hail the broligarchy: why 2024 was the year of the bro | Arwa Mahdawi

They’ve been around for ever; now they’re running the US. And beneath all the podcasts and punching lie questions of grievance, self-ownership and self-expression
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Dago said:
Why is this article acting like there aren't plenty of women in positions of power/authority who abuse there underlings or treat people badly?
I agree with plenty in that article but the cherry picked examples are ridiculous and ignore that women express their butt crevasse gene in different ways from men.
It isn't hard to do a little research and find plenty of examples of female politicians and entertainers using their status/positions in immoral or unscrupulous ways. Women, and i say this as a complement, are more subtle than men.
Research also shows that men are far less likely to report things like domestic or sexual abuse.
Women are newer to the power game and there are less of them in these positions...that coupled with men being likely to not report incidents means that cherry picked examples or gross numbers are useless

Look at all the incidents of female teachers sexually abusing students. Those same gender dynamics cause less societal outrage and women's sentences are on average almost 50% less than men.
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I think it’s the same as saying “women rape men too” or that women can also be domestic abusers

Yes they do and yes they can but that pie chart is nowhere near equal

You do have a point about the double standard about teachers and I’ll admit I’m guilty of it myself

News story: 40 year old male high school teacher caught having an affair with 9th grade female student

My response: Terrible, monster, pedophile, should be fired, jailed, castrated and tarred and feathered

News story: 40 year old female high school student caught having affair with 9th grade male student

My response: What does she look like? (If hot, ‘good for you kid!’)

It is awful and hardly fair but they’re called double standards for a reason
 
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Optimus Prime said:
I think it’s the same as saying “women rape men too” or that women can also be domestic abusers

Yes they do and yes they can but that pie chart is nowhere near equal

You do have a point about the double standard about teachers and I’ll admit I’m guilty of it myself

News story: 40 year old male high school teacher caught having an affair with 9th grade female student

My response: Terrible, monster, pedophile, should be fired, jailed, castrated and tarred and feathered

News story: 40 year old female high school student caught having affair with 9th grade male student

My response: What does she look like? (If hot, ‘good for you kid!’)

It is awful and hardly fair but they’re called double standards for a reason
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I agree with everything you wrote...even agree that men do it more than women. My objection was the way the article presents the info. They literally make it seem like is solely a male issue with their cherry picked example and the truth is that we have no idea how often men are sexually harassed or assaulted

And I am guilty of buying into that double standard as well. I'm no expert on teenage females but I know my male friends and I would literally fantasize about certain teachers when I was a teen. Wrong as it is, we would have jumped at the chance and it would have been considered the pinnacle of our lives to that point
 

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