Wicked (3 Viewers)

This is why I do not go to movie theaters.
Yeah, I generally don't go to theaters much. Once a year, and its gotta be a special movie that my wife and I would possibly enjoy. It has to include open captions because i hate using the closed captions devices the theater gives out.

I've been to the theater once since Endgame.
 
Ok, everyone here is talking about plot, which is great IMO, but the musical performances were virtuosic. Erivo’s Defying Gravity is absolutely devastating in the best way possible.
 
Wicked has faced more than its fair share of controversies since it was first announced; from the uproar over recasting the play’s leads, to fan-made posters going viral for the wrong reasons, to the debate over people singing along to it in cinemas and ruining it for everyone.

As such, Wicked does not wish to cause any more upset, which is why it has gone out of its way to cut any new controversy off at the pass. Exhibit A: the BBFC has slapped a warning on the film, alerting viewers that it features scenes of discrimination against those with green skin.

The BBFC website states that “seeing beloved characters being mistreated, especially when Elphaba’s skin-colour is used to demonise her as the ‘Wicked Witch’, may be upsetting and poignant for some audiences.”.............


I've seen other sites and newspapers do similar descriptions and breakdowns for family films, so parents can know exactly what it in the movies and can decide if it's right for their children I don't really have an issue with it
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.....threat and horror

Occasional threatening scenes include fantastical creatures and human guards chasing after two women. People narrowly escape an explosion. Monkeys appear in pain and distress as they grow wings, and there are brief scary moments.

discrimination

A green-skinned woman is mocked, bullied and humiliated because of her skin colour. A disabled woman in a wheelchair is treated in a condescending manner by able-bodied people. Talking animals are persecuted in a fantastical society........

 
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Wicked has faced more than its fair share of controversies since it was first announced; from the uproar over recasting the play’s leads, to fan-made posters going viral for the wrong reasons, to the debate over people singing along to it in cinemas and ruining it for everyone.

As such, Wicked does not wish to cause any more upset, which is why it has gone out of its way to cut any new controversy off at the pass. Exhibit A: the BBFC has slapped a warning on the film, alerting viewers that it features scenes of discrimination against those with green skin.

The BBFC website states that “seeing beloved characters being mistreated, especially when Elphaba’s skin-colour is used to demonise her as the ‘Wicked Witch’, may be upsetting and poignant for some audiences.”.............


I've seen other sites and newspapers do similar descriptions and breakdowns for family films, so parents can know exactly what it in the movies and can decide if it's right for their children I don't really have an issue with it
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.....threat and horror

Occasional threatening scenes include fantastical creatures and human guards chasing after two women. People narrowly escape an explosion. Monkeys appear in pain and distress as they grow wings, and there are brief scary moments.

discrimination

A green-skinned woman is mocked, bullied and humiliated because of her skin colour. A disabled woman in a wheelchair is treated in a condescending manner by able-bodied people. Talking animals are persecuted in a fantastical society........

just like the ones who cried 'WOKE' when they found out a black person was playing the witch, who in WOZ, was played by a white women, that somehow that mattered when she was green.
 
Wicked has faced more than its fair share of controversies since it was first announced; from the uproar over recasting the play’s leads, to fan-made posters going viral for the wrong reasons, to the debate over people singing along to it in cinemas and ruining it for everyone.

As such, Wicked does not wish to cause any more upset, which is why it has gone out of its way to cut any new controversy off at the pass. Exhibit A: the BBFC has slapped a warning on the film, alerting viewers that it features scenes of discrimination against those with green skin.

The BBFC website states that “seeing beloved characters being mistreated, especially when Elphaba’s skin-colour is used to demonise her as the ‘Wicked Witch’, may be upsetting and poignant for some audiences.”.............


I've seen other sites and newspapers do similar descriptions and breakdowns for family films, so parents can know exactly what it in the movies and can decide if it's right for their children I don't really have an issue with it
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.....threat and horror

Occasional threatening scenes include fantastical creatures and human guards chasing after two women. People narrowly escape an explosion. Monkeys appear in pain and distress as they grow wings, and there are brief scary moments.

discrimination

A green-skinned woman is mocked, bullied and humiliated because of her skin colour. A disabled woman in a wheelchair is treated in a condescending manner by able-bodied people. Talking animals are persecuted in a fantastical society........


LOL I grew watching Little House on the Prairie where they burned down a school for the blind and had a 2 part rapist-on-the-loose episode.
 
People suck
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Wicked star Marissa Bode has condemned social media users who have made her and her character’s disability the butt of the joke.

The 24-year-old actor stars as Nessarose, the spoiled younger sister of Elphaba (played by Cynthia Erivo). In the movie, she uses a wheelchair just like in real life.

Taking to TikTok on Friday (November 29), Bode posted a five-minute video calling out people for making “aggressive” and “deeply uncomfortable” comments about both her and her character.

In the caption, she wrote: “Representation is important but that’s not the only thing that will save the disabled community. I need a lot of y’all (non-disabled people) to do the work. To dissect and unlearn your own ableism. Listen to disabled people. Follow other disabled people outside of just me. Read up on the disability rights movement/watch the documentary Crip Camp! I understand no one likes feeling like they’re being scolded. But true progress never comes with comfort. And that’s ok.”

Beginning the video, she acknowledged that “it is absolutely OK to not like a fictional character. I am going to be admitting my bias in the way that I have a lot of different feelings on Nessa than a lot of you do, and that’s totally fine. I think Nessa is complex, but that’s the beauty of art. Wicked and these characters and the movie wouldn’t be what it was if there weren’t different opinions on the characters and who’s truly wicked or not. And not liking Nessa herself is OK. Because she is fictional, that’s totally fine.”

She went on to say that while she herself is a “deeply unserious person” who enjoys the occasional “silly, goofy, harmless” joke, it’s not ok to make “aggressive comments and jokes about Nessa’s disability itself.”

“It’s deeply uncomfortable because disability is not fictional,” Bode said. “At the end of the day, me — Marissa — is the person that is still disabled and in a wheelchair. And so, it is simply a low-hanging fruit that too many of you are comfortable taking.”

She noted to those who were curious about the comments she was referring to that she had deleted most of them already.

“Before even being cast in Wicked, I had received comments — just as me, as Marissa, not Nessa — around the words of ‘stand up for yourself,’ ‘I guess you can’t stand him,’ et cetera,” she said. “These comments aren’t original, and when these jokes are being made by non-disabled strangers with a punchline of not being able to walk, it very much feels like laughing at rather than laughing with.

She continued: “This goes so far beyond me, Marissa, just needing to ignore comments on the internet. These comments do not exist in a vacuum. Aggressive comments of wanting to cause harm and push Nessa out of her wheelchair, or that she deserves her disability, are two very gross and harmful comments that real disabled people, including myself, have heard before.”.............




 
LOL I grew watching Little House on the Prairie where they burned down a school for the blind and had a 2 part rapist-on-the-loose episode.
If I'm understanding correctly this wasn't a disclaimer shown prior to the movie but a website that does deep dives into content

Now the 70s was definitely a different time, but if there was something called Family TV Viewing at the time maybe it would have mentioned the arson or rapist
 
If I'm understanding correctly this wasn't a disclaimer shown prior to the movie but a website that does deep dives into content

Now the 70s was definitely a different time, but if there was something called Family TV Viewing at the time maybe it would have mentioned the arson or rapist

Trust me, Little House was the definition of Family TV Viewing in the 70s. But yes, it was a very different time.

The closest we got to a trigger warning was the blurb in TV Guide that would say something like "The town deals with an incident at the blind school."
 
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People suck
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Wicked star Marissa Bode has condemned social media users who have made her and her character’s disability the butt of the joke.

The 24-year-old actor stars as Nessarose, the spoiled younger sister of Elphaba (played by Cynthia Erivo). In the movie, she uses a wheelchair just like in real life.

Taking to TikTok on Friday (November 29), Bode posted a five-minute video calling out people for making “aggressive” and “deeply uncomfortable” comments about both her and her character.

In the caption, she wrote: “Representation is important but that’s not the only thing that will save the disabled community. I need a lot of y’all (non-disabled people) to do the work. To dissect and unlearn your own ableism. Listen to disabled people. Follow other disabled people outside of just me. Read up on the disability rights movement/watch the documentary Crip Camp! I understand no one likes feeling like they’re being scolded. But true progress never comes with comfort. And that’s ok.”

Beginning the video, she acknowledged that “it is absolutely OK to not like a fictional character. I am going to be admitting my bias in the way that I have a lot of different feelings on Nessa than a lot of you do, and that’s totally fine. I think Nessa is complex, but that’s the beauty of art. Wicked and these characters and the movie wouldn’t be what it was if there weren’t different opinions on the characters and who’s truly wicked or not. And not liking Nessa herself is OK. Because she is fictional, that’s totally fine.”

She went on to say that while she herself is a “deeply unserious person” who enjoys the occasional “silly, goofy, harmless” joke, it’s not ok to make “aggressive comments and jokes about Nessa’s disability itself.”

“It’s deeply uncomfortable because disability is not fictional,” Bode said. “At the end of the day, me — Marissa — is the person that is still disabled and in a wheelchair. And so, it is simply a low-hanging fruit that too many of you are comfortable taking.”

She noted to those who were curious about the comments she was referring to that she had deleted most of them already.

“Before even being cast in Wicked, I had received comments — just as me, as Marissa, not Nessa — around the words of ‘stand up for yourself,’ ‘I guess you can’t stand him,’ et cetera,” she said. “These comments aren’t original, and when these jokes are being made by non-disabled strangers with a punchline of not being able to walk, it very much feels like laughing at rather than laughing with.

She continued: “This goes so far beyond me, Marissa, just needing to ignore comments on the internet. These comments do not exist in a vacuum. Aggressive comments of wanting to cause harm and push Nessa out of her wheelchair, or that she deserves her disability, are two very gross and harmful comments that real disabled people, including myself, have heard before.”.............





My wife's best friend, her first cousin is Marissa Bode. Their family is from the Mid-west, Iowa and Wisconson. the friend just took a vaction to LA this summer and got to hang out with her for a day. The friend was pretty excited when she found the Wicked LEGO set with Marrisa included in it and was on the box, since her daughter loves LEGOs.
 

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