Not Fredo....hahahaha....I'm glad I was on mute during this call. lol.No im talking about JW. JW has all of the traits except reps. (Reps to iron out his game). Obviously, he's not going to get reps, but maybe more time behind Carr, and who knows. TBCH, I've always viewed him as on-the-cusp to breaking out. (Its frustrating because you want to see your vision come to fruition)
There's one type of QB that strikes fear in me, and thats a pocket QB that has a huge arm, tough as nails, but is also highly mobile. My question about JW is, can he still be mobile? The last time we've seen him play as a starter, he's been hampered by injury or play design. But if you noticed, and I could be wrong, but JW in the preseason looked slimmer and mobile. Ive said a few times, that the legs go first as a Qb ages, so that's something to keep an eye on. Carr has borderline but acceptable mobility. (It really helps to have Taysom to compensate). In this league you have to be able to extend plays.
This is what I think of Haener since his suspension:
Ok, I didn't know that JW's name was mentioned by Vikings fans. I agree with the rest. About Haener: What I'm mostly concerned about Haener, is that he's been (potentially) juiced on roids since day 1 and he frauded his way into the NFL. This is 100% speculation because we werent told what the drug was? If it was reported, please advise. A man without juice may be a fraud. So I'm not ready to hand the keys to a deflated roid-less QB. I hope it comes out it was weed or something harmless.
He's more valuable to the Saints as the back up QB then the 7th rd pick you would get for him. He aint hurting the payroll either.
Truth! Winston would be welcome as a backup just about anywhere, but not with the price being another draft pick(s) or other key pieces. And this team needs bona fide starters on the o-line, not just “good” linemen. It’ll be a big-time need on day 1 of next year’s draft.
He’s not signed for 2024… and we’re on the hook for it regardless.
Oh, you're saying that he sealed his own fate and will be released because he restructured and therefore put himself into a salary cap casualty scenario? I wasn't thinking about the business implications.
Idk about anywhere. Many teams like to use their backup position for young guns they hope to develop. But I do think there are a few teams that Winston could upgrade their backup qb position.
He sealed his fate by not being released when we picked up Carr and deciding to restructure his contract (1 year) to do us a solid on the books..lol. Him deciding to come back benefitted us more from a financial perspective than it did him, as he not only took less money now to have dead money pushed to next season but now he also misses on prime opportunities. Financially, I believe that most of his $4 million was bonus so his base is low. We are already on the hook for $10 million next season whether he is traded now or not. I was just saying that if we were to look at this individually, he might have been better off being released by the Saints and see what happened next as opposed to putting your fate in Loomis and DA's hand.
Who was going to sign Winston to start had he been released?
I see. in his defense, he was coming off of an injury so his market wouldve been low so he took bird in hand instead of the birds in the bush. (I think that’s how that goes lol)
Quite honestly, none of us knows. As neither you or myself are in any front offices, all we really have is speculation. Crap, nobody was us was crazy enough to give Carr the contract that we did. Perception is a heck of a thing, especially.......
The dropped snap that turned into a td in that game was a low, low point.
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