Yacht Rock a Dockumentary (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

You left off Bodhisattva

Yeah, I meant to include that one.

 

[superchuck500]

Well-known musician Jimmy Page on "Reelin' in the Years"

When looking back on his career, Page previously told Rolling Stone that his favourite Led Zeppelin riff was ‘Kashmir’. Outside of Led Zeppelin’s discography and his own work, though, the legendary guitarist names his favourite guitar solo of all time as Elliott Randall’s riff in ‘Reelin’ In The Years’ by Steely Dan during a 1999 interview with Classic Rock.

He also later reaffirmed his love for the riff in a 2016 interview with Oliver Patrick Loughnan, in which he rated the guitar playing a 12/10. When Loughnan plays the track to Page, he recognises it immediately and states: “Oh I know this, yeah, that’s cool. I really like that. Steely Dan. Yeah I really like that. That’s gotta be a 12 hasn’t it?”

Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page names his favourite guitar solo

Legendary guitarist and Led Zeppelin founder Jimmy Page names his favourite guitar solo of all time, a 1973 jazz-rock classic he rates a 12/10.

faroutmagazine.co.uk

 

[sfidc3]

I can ask the few that I do know - though I'm quite sure of the answer.

And I'm not simply calling everything rock. While I agree that what is and isn't rock can be heavily subjective, I think there are basic keystones of rock - including the strength of the rhythm section, the tempo and time, and the instrumentation and subject matter . . . and certainly much of Steely Dan fits those criteria. If you can listen to those songs I posted, including Reelin' in the Years, Black Friday, etc. (and there are others) and provide a defense of the notion that it's not rock, then cheers mate - but you can't.

So notwithstanding this supposed but unidentified universe of musicians a majority of which allegedly don't consider Steely Dan rock, is there any other basis for saying these songs in particular aren't rock?

These songs have rock elements, they also have jazz elements and tempo and time would definitely not be a keystone in my definition.....because if you take a simple hard rock band or punk band tempo and time doesn't change much but if you take a Steely Dan, Yes, Genesis, etc....on most of their songs tempo and time are constantly changing.....you can still define all of that music as "rock" if you want to, but I don't....

Tone is more prevalent in defining rock than any of your keystones (strength of the rhythm section?), heavy tone, tone with certain effects....we look at music way differently....

 

[Madmarsha]

Okay, humor me - explain which of these songs isn't "rock" :

You tried to get me to listen to Steely Dan and I ain't fallin' for that trap.

 

[Madmarsha]

Ahead of the Super Bowl, a luxury superyacht has docked in New Orleans. See who it belongs to.

An American billionaire just docked his yacht in New Orleans ahead of the Super Bowl.

www.nola.com

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

With all friendly respect, you don't know many musicians do you?

It's easy and lazy to just call everything rock......just like the Rock and Roll HOF (it's not a rock and roll HOF, it's a Music HOF, and that's just fine)....

In the end, it's just a label, you can call it whatever you want, and labels are very much subjective....

begs the question: what is rock?
…
Follow up: when is rock?

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

So im taking a walk at the park this morning (now that im in my 50s i dont go running, i go walking).. im listening to the Sirius/XM satellite radio app on my phone (again, im ancient so i dont do Pandora or Spotify) and up onto the Yacht Rock channel comes……. Wait for it….. Carole King ‘So Far Away’………. This is out of control.. growing up in my house my folks had Tapestry on a constant loop, it was released in i believe 70 or 71, well before the heyday of YR…. In no way does Carole King music constitute YR in any way…. This needs to stop, it’s absolute madness .

 

[saintmdterps]

With all friendly respect, you don't know many musicians do you?

It's easy and lazy to just call everything rock......just like the Rock and Roll HOF (it's not a rock and roll HOF, it's a Music HOF, and that's just fine)....

In the end, it's just a label, you can call it whatever you want, and labels are very much subjective....

It takes a musician to parse out jazz/rock/soul/blues etc. influences on various bands, but I would characterize Steely Dan as a rock band with jazz influences. Given that so many of the 60's and 70's bands were heavily influenced by the early blues artists, would you make that same distinction with bands such as early versions Fleetwood Mac, The Rolling Stones, or The Who?

The lines are indeed blurry.

 

[superchuck500]

It takes a musician to parse out jazz/rock/soul/blues etc. influences on various bands, but I would characterize Steely Dan as a rock band with jazz influences. Given that so many of the 60's and 70's bands were heavily influenced by the early blues artists, would you make that same distinction with bands such as early versions Fleetwood Mac, The Rolling Stones, or The Who?

The lines are indeed blurry.

So here the pig is clearly thinking “enough with this jazz, would you play some freakin’ rock music for once?”

 

[sfidc3]

begs the question: what is rock?
…
Follow up: when is rock?

Both salient questions, also both very much open to interpretation....

It takes a musician to parse out jazz/rock/soul/blues etc. influences on various bands, but I would characterize Steely Dan as a rock band with jazz influences. Given that so many of the 60's and 70's bands were heavily influenced by the early blues artists, would you make that same distinction with bands such as early versions Fleetwood Mac, The Rolling Stones, or The Who?

The lines are indeed blurry.

And I would call them a jazz-rock fusion band with jazz being very much at the forefront.....most of the musicians that have filtered through the band are jazz guys....

I would call Fleetwood Mac a folk influenced rock band and both the Stones and the Who (to a lesser extent, they were bluesy early on but went the concept route) rock bands with a blues influence....

I also find it funny that LZ is regarded as a early heavy metal band by some when half the songs they did in their prime were covers of old blues songs.....

 

[sfidc3]

Well-known musician Jimmy Page on "Reelin' in the Years"

Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page names his favourite guitar solo

Legendary guitarist and Led Zeppelin founder Jimmy Page names his favourite guitar solo of all time, a 1973 jazz-rock classic he rates a 12/10.

faroutmagazine.co.uk

Yup, Eliot Randell, great session guy.....so many great players have played on their records....

My favorite of theirs is Larry Carlton, jazz guy, that actually played some of the more rock type solos for them (ironic? or just unusual?), the lists of folks who he played for is incredible (Joni Mitchell, etc).....you can hear him on Kid Charlemane, Don't Take Me Alive, and many more....