You are GM, do you trade up or down in draft? (2 Viewers)

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Depends on the current makeup of the roster and obviously the players on your board. The past several years it has made sense to go up and get your guy because the depth chart has been pretty much set. The quality of their picks was more important than the quantity. Trading up is fine if you nail the picks but you can't be selling the farm for Rehab Warriors.

Now maybe not so much. Sure, they could trade up again for an instant impact player but at what cost? They are still going to have significant areas of concern at a few other spots. Do they want one A prospect or three B prospects to sprinkle over the roster?

It all comes down to how close they think they are to competing for a championship. If they thought they were close enough to trade up with Winston at QB then yeah, I'm sure they'll still be going all out with Carr the next few years.
 
Treybad said:
I would wait till its our pick at 29 then take calls for trade ups by other teams I get a great deal say like anyone from 30-39 wants to move up we get the pick 30-39 as well as top 70 pick along with a 4th or 5th rd this year or next, I want be giving it away, the other teams are gonna have to give me what I want or we pick at 29.... I would also like to somehow trade down again later in the 4th maybe and pick up a 6th rd pick this year.... noticed in all my mocks I kinda wish I had a 6th rd pick to grab that extra OL WR that I kinda liked but there never there in the 7th
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I would not give away that 5th year option cheap if at all!
 
J.T. said:
I could see the Saints trading up from #40 (500 points) to #34 (560 points) and using their 4th (64 points) to make the move up. Or trading up from #71 (235 points) to #65 (265 points) and giving up their first 5th (32 points) to make the move.
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How do y'all know these points? Where ya get em?
 
Optimistic Ozzy said:
If someone wants to dance with us for that 29th pick, I'd be good trading back 4-5 places for an extra 3rd rounder.
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Pick #29 is worth 640 points. Let's use Arizona as a potential trade partner. Arizona has pick #34 (560 points) and, in the fourth round, pick #104 (85 points). That is a fair trade.

Arizona also has a supplemental 3rd round pick #96 (116 points). Saints would have to send 5th round pick #146 (32 points) to get into the late 3rd round.

Proposed Trade: (Scenario 1)
Saints send pick #29 to Arizona.
Saints get from Arizona, pick #34 and 4th round pick #104.

Saints give up 640 points, get back 645 points.

OR

(Scenario 2)
Saints send pick #29 AND 5th round pick #146 to Arizona.
Saints get pick #34 and 3rd round pick #96.

Saints give up 672 points, get back 676 points.

People think the chart doesn't matter that much, but it does matter. The 5th year option might get you a little bit of premium towards the end of round #1, but probably not enough to get a mid 3rd round pick unless you trade past our current pick in the 2nd round.

You also have to look at what picks teams actually have, I just don't see a trade back to the early 40's and getting back a 3rd round pick as an option, I don't see the potential team in the chart, unless it is the Arizona trades above. Saints could probably get away with throwing our second 5th round pick to Arizona in scenario #2 above. Pick #165 is 24 points instead of pick #146 at 32 points, so Saints get a "premium" of 12 points in this trade instead of 4 points. (664 Saints vs 676 Arizona)

HattiesburgWhoDat said:
How do y'all know these points? Where ya get em?
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This is a great source, has the picks and point values in one easy site to look at.

 
I stand out unless I only have to move up a few spots for bijan. To get a top 5 player in the draft at any position later in round 1 is well worth it. Plus you can’t beat 5 years of a great cheap rb. Alvin is getting expensive
 
If you can get who you want and pick up another pick, you trade down. It boils down to how they have the top 100 players scored and how the draft is going. They have a plan. We have been very good at identifying talent since 2016. Maybe not so good at evaluating longevity and injury-proneness.
 
There's no way for any of us to answer the OP's question because we don't really know who the Saints are eager to get or who will be available when out picking order numbers come up. If the Saints can get the exact guy we want at #29, then there's little reason to negotiate for other/lower picks. If someone wants to give us a mint for our #29 pick and we can still get quality guys with the extra trade revenue, then the Saints would likely go that way.

The trick is to try not to lose the guy that will do the most good for your team even if it may cost you some additional pick bait to move up to get him. Of course things happen really quickly on draft day, and it's likely that many of these scenarios have already been discussed in the front office regarding the direction to go when they see which players will be available and when they expect other teams to be interested in them.

Draft day is a HUGE crapshoot and often a team that is too eager will get taken to the cleaners to get the player of their dreams. I just hope the draft will be talent-rich regarding the player(s) that we hope to pick so that at least one great prospect will still be available when it's our turn at the podium. Hopefully we won't have to sell the farm for any specific player this year.
 
J.T. said:
Pick #29 is worth 640 points. Let's use Arizona as a potential trade partner. Arizona has pick #34 (560 points) and, in the fourth round, pick #104 (85 points). That is a fair trade.

Arizona also has a supplemental 3rd round pick #96 (116 points). Saints would have to send 5th round pick #146 (32 points) to get into the late 3rd round.

Proposed Trade: (Scenario 1)
Saints send pick #29 to Arizona.
Saints get from Arizona, pick #34 and 4th round pick #104.

Saints give up 640 points, get back 645 points.

OR

(Scenario 2)
Saints send pick #29 AND 5th round pick #146 to Arizona.
Saints get pick #34 and 3rd round pick #96.

Saints give up 672 points, get back 676 points.

People think the chart doesn't matter that much, but it does matter. The 5th year option might get you a little bit of premium towards the end of round #1, but probably not enough to get a mid 3rd round pick unless you trade past our current pick in the 2nd round.

You also have to look at what picks teams actually have, I just don't see a trade back to the early 40's and getting back a 3rd round pick as an option, I don't see the potential team in the chart, unless it is the Arizona trades above. Saints could probably get away with throwing our second 5th round pick to Arizona in scenario #2 above. Pick #165 is 24 points instead of pick #146 at 32 points, so Saints get a "premium" of 12 points in this trade instead of 4 points. (664 Saints vs 676 Arizona)



This is a great source, has the picks and point values in one easy site to look at.

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Thx
 

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