Carl Granderson sentenced to 6 months (1 Viewer)

[StudioSaint]

These facts have already been provided in this thread, but I think a quick refresher is needed for the sake of factual accuracy. This is the sexual battery and unlawful contact crime that the women accused Granderson of committing to which Granderson ultimately plead no contest:

Sexual assault, battery charges against former UW football player involve two women

LARAMIE — The sexual assault and sexual battery charges filed last week against former Wyoming football standout Carl Granderson involve two alleged victims, court documents show.

trib.com

...alleging Granderson had “touched them sexually, without their permission, while they were sleeping”...Victim 2 said she was awakened...when Granderson touched her right breast...She said Granderson did this three times, and each time she moved his arm and hand away from her body,...before moving closer toward Victim 1 to try to create more distance between herself and Granderson...Granderson reached over to pull her back toward him, and she felt his genitals against her body...she felt his hand in her pants...

Victim 1 also alleged she woke up when she felt Granderson’s hand “touching her buttocks,”...The woman told police Granderson touched her genitals, prompting her to roll over onto her belly, which caused his hand to come out of her pants.

What Granderson was accused of is consistent with being sentenced to 6 months of prison time. That is an irrefutable fact. If you think that is an unjust and unfair punishment for what Granderson was accused of doing, then your issue is with the laws of the state of Wyoming.

 

[StudioSaint]

These are the facts of the court proceedings and Wyoming law regarding this case.

What was then the plea agreement that the DA and Granderson struck? A: A plea of no contest to a charge of sexual battery and unlawful touching (2 misdemeanor charges that had unsupervised probation as the punishment).

Sexual battery in the state of Wyoming is:

2014 Wyoming Statutes :: TITLE 6 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 2 - OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON :: ARTICLE 3 - SEXUAL ASSAULT :: 6-2-313. Sexual battery.

law.justia.com

(a) Except under circumstances constituting a violation of W.S. 6-2-302 through 6-2-304, 6-2-314 through 6-2-317 or 6-2-502, an actor who unlawfully subjects another person to any sexual contact is guilty of sexual battery.

Which carries the following maximum sentencing:

(b) Sexual battery is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than one (1) year, a fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000.00), or both.

As you can plainly see, sexual battery is still a serious offense. Don't try to sweep it away as no big deal just because it's "only a misdemeanor." We're not talking about a misdemeanor traffic ticket here.

If the judge rejected Granderson's plea because she "had it out" for him, I think she would have given him the maximum sentence for sexual battery instead of half of the maximum sentence for sexual battery.

Let's dig deeper though. Let's look at the second crime he plead no contest to, unlawful touching. Unlawful touching in Wyoming is:

(g) A person is guilty of unlawful contact if he:
(i) Touches another person in a rude, insolent or angry manner without intentionally using sufficient physical force to cause bodily injury to another; or
(ii) Recklessly causes bodily injury to another person.

Which carries the maximum sentence of:

(h) An unlawful contact under subsection (g) of this section is a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, a fine of not more than seven hundred fifty dollars ($750.00) or both.

The judge gave Granderson the equivalent of the maximum prison sentence for just the lessor charge of unlawful contact. That doesn't sound like the actions of a crazed zealot abusing her power to inflict maximum punishment on someone she "had it out" for.

Did the judge change Granderson's plea or his sentence? No on the plea, yes on the sentencing.

That is correct. The judge did not change the criminal charge or Granderson's plea. She only changed the sentencing component of the plea agreement to include prison time which was well within the maximizing sentencing guidelines of the laws he plead no contest to breaking.

Anybody that does any of the things Granderson was accused of doing would be committing a criminal act in the state of Wyoming which could land you in prison for up to a year. That's the ultimate fact of this matter. If you think what Granderson is accused of doing is okay for you to do, then you do it at your own peril in the state of Wyoming. If you just read this post, you can't whine that you didn't know better, now you know it's a crime.

Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time.

 

[The Reejer]

Yes you are correct, however throughout this thread you haven’t accepted the details or the context surrounding the Plea Agreement.

Initially he was charged with Third Degree Sexual Assault, a felony charge that had a possibility of a 30 year jail sentence. Granderson at first wanted to risk a long prison sentence, and fight the charges in front of a jury trial for each charge. Once that was shot down, he wanted to settle for one jury trial (still pleading non guilty).

The Prosecuting Attorney, and his and his lawyer the put fourth a Plea Agreement in which; instead of fighting the charges in the court, he agreed to change his plea from “not guilty” to “no contest”.

This AGREEMENT between the prosecution and his lawyer was under the understanding that Granderson would change his plea in order to change the charges and the sentencing. This AGREEMENT changed his charges from two charges of Third Degree Sexual Assault, and the possibility of a 15 year prison sentence for each act (totaling 30 years); to two misdemeanor sentences of (1) Unlawful Touching and (2) Sexual Battery that you stated could have a sentence of a combined 16 months. But under the PLEA AGREEMENT it was agreed upon that he would serve just a 12 month unsupervised probation and no jail time for the two misdemeanors.

The Judge, who has done this in the past. Where she had blindsided defendants after throwing out the what they agreed upon, and unilaterally changing their sentencing agreement. So it is a bait and switch, in which everyone (the Defense, and the Prosecution) agrees for the defendant to change his stance from “Nope, I didn’t do it, I’m innocent.”, to “No, I’m not guilty, but I cannot refute the charges (No Contest).”, in order to have a lesser charge and sentence. Then the Judge says pretty much what you did, “He didn’t plead not guilty, so he must be guilty, so I’m not going to go along with the AGREEMENT, and I’m going to do my own investigation by interrogating his therapist.”. “And I don’t care what they agreed upon because I am the person who dishes out the justice around here, and I am going to stick it to these evil things that have penises!”.

The Appeals Judge said this in his decision to change the sentencing: “To be clear, based on the information currently before the court, the ex parte communication was in no way damaging to defendant,” Perry wrote. “However, that fact simply does not matter. Ex parte communications of this nature are improper regardless — and even moreso when instituted by the sitting judge. In any analysis employed, there is simply no other just conclusion.”. So yes, the Appeals Judge did most definitely find the initial judges actions inappropriate, and I don’t understand how you can’t understand that, it seems pretty straightforward... but that might just be me.

 

[crosswatt]

Ok miss or mister facts, can you show me ONE source that says how many times his hand was pushed away?

According to the affidavit, the victims went to university police with a sexual assault complaint on the morning of Nov. 26, alleging Granderson had “touched them sexually, without their permission, while they were sleeping” after watching a movie at Granderson’s off-campus apartment the night before.
Victim 2 said she was awakened in the bed where all three of them were sleeping when Granderson touched her right breast with his left hand. She said Granderson did this three times, and each time she moved his arm and hand away from her body, according to the affidavit, before moving closer toward Victim 1 to try to create more distance between herself and Granderson.


According to the affidavit, Granderson reached over to pull her back toward him, and she felt his genitals against her body. The victim told investigators after she felt his hand in her pants, she sat up, moved toward the opposite side of the bed and complained of the heat in the room, at which point Granderson removed his hand, rolled over and turned on a fan, according to the affidavit.
Victim 1 also alleged she woke up when she felt Granderson’s hand “touching her buttocks,” according to the affidavit, and that she knew it was Granderson’s hand because it was much larger than Victim 2’s hands. The woman told police Granderson touched her genitals, prompting her to roll over onto her belly, which caused his hand to come out of her pants. She also recalled Victim 2 sitting up in bed at one point that morning and making a comment about how hot it was in the room, according to the affidavit.


Victim 2 tried to wake up Victim 1 by tugging on her T-shirt, but that didn’t work. She then sent her a text message at 5:45 a.m. that read, “I have something to tell you,” according to the affidavit. But Victim 1 said she didn’t see it until after Granderson left the apartment.
Victim 1 responded to Victim 2’s text around 7:16 a.m., saying, “I already know what it is bro. I was praying it didn’t happen to you too,” according to the affidavit.
Both of the women informed a Laramie Police Department officer, who took over the investigation because the alleged incident occurred off campus, that there had been no prior “romantic, intimate or sexual contact” between them and Granderson and that they never gave him permission to touch them, according to the affidavit.

Sexual assault, battery charges against former UW football player involve two women

LARAMIE — The sexual assault and sexual battery charges filed last week against former Wyoming football standout Carl Granderson involve two alleged victims, court documents show.

trib.com

 

[crosswatt]

But you should send about 90% of the males in America to prison too. Because with the new standards for sexual assault, and harassment where it is considered rape if either of the sexual participants are intoxicated, and you can have HR have a sit down with you for simply opening a door for a female, or saying that she looks nice, and essentially needing a written contract to kiss, fondle or hug someone... FFS we will have a population shortage in the next two decades because of fear of litigation or imprisonment for attempting to get to the point of having a sexual encounter.

If 90% of males leave this type of damage and emotional destruction in their wake, then we probably should.

Before Kricken handed down her sentence, Granderson’s victims, who were identified as A.A. and D.H. in court filings and chose to only identify themselves by their initials in court, were given the opportunity to make statements.

Both said they were under the impression that Granderson was going to plead guilty to the new charges and that they wouldn’t have agreed to the deal if they’d known he was going to enter any other plea.

They also spoke directly to Granderson, who was stoic throughout the proceedings while seated next to Goetz. Wearing an all-black suit, Granderson dropped his head for long periods of time as his accusers spoke of the mental and physical toll they said the abuse has taken on their lives.

A.A., a UW student-athlete, said she was hospitalized this spring for depression and suicidal thoughts after being “harassed and bullied” by members of UW’s football team and fellow student-athlete Ja’la Henderson, Granderson’s girlfriend.

“He’s 100 percent guilty,” said A.A., who paused numerous times throughout her statement to wipe away tears. “I literally almost lost my life because of him. I want him to face every consequence he can get.

“You, Carl, know exactly what we went through, and you can now hear my voice.”

A.A. also criticized UW’s administration for the way she felt it handled the allegations against Granderson. She claimed one coach’s wife told her she should transfer because she was going to become the target of slut-shaming.

“Carl, you traumatized me, and everything I went through is because of you,” she said.


D.H. claimed she was told to “suck it up” and that “we’d just be slut-shamed.”


She said she also had to be hospitalized for panic attacks after the incident.


“I was terrified to go anywhere I may see you,” D.H. said as she addressed Granderson. “Because of you, I’m no longer who I once was.”

Former UW Football player sentenced to six months jail time

By Davis Potter, Casper Star-Tribune Via Wyoming News Exchange LARAMIE — A judge sentenced former Wyoming football player Carl Granderson to six months in jail Thursday morning in Albany County District Court, rejecting the terms of his plea agreement. During proceedings that turned emotional...

svinews.com

 

[StudioSaint]

But under the plea agreement it was agreed upon that he would serve just a 12 month unsupervised probation and no jail time for the two misdemeanors.

The plea agreement in no way changes the laws of Montana regarding the criminality of the crime that Granderson is accused of committing and that he could have gone to jail for up to 18 months. The judge made a mistake by talking to his therapists, but her sentence was well within the laws of Wyoming.

You seem to be under the mistaken belief that judges rejecting a plea agreement or altering a plea agreement is an abuse of power or an over reach. It's neither one of those. Judges reject plea deals frequently and it is within their power to do so. A plea deal isn't a done deal until a judge signs off on it, at least that's how it is in most states. The judge was within her power to change the plea. The judge that over turned her did so on the basis of her improper contact with his therapist. He did not over turn her for the changing the plea agreement.

But, hey, don't take my word for it. Let's look at what you allege is a direct quote from the appeals judge:

The Appeals Judge said this in his decision to change the sentencing: “To be clear, based on the information currently before the court, the ex parte communication was in no way damaging to defendant,” Perry wrote. “However, that fact simply does not matter. Ex parte communications of this nature are improper regardless — and even moreso when instituted by the sitting judge. In any analysis employed, there is simply no other just conclusion.”

The above, which you wrote, shows what I'm saying is true. The appeal judge does not in any way say that the judge didn't have the right to change the plea agreement. This illustrates my point very clearly.

The Judge, who has done this in the past.

Cite sources. Show me where the judge has done this before and make sure those sources lay out all of the cirmstances of those cases if they exist. If you don't show sources, it means you're making stuff up to suit your clearly biased opinion.

...the Appeals Judge did most definitely find the initial judges actions inappropriate, and I don’t understand how you can’t understand that, it seems pretty straightforward... but that might just be me.

I was wondering why you didn't quote anything I wrote. Now I know why, so you could misrepresent what I said.

I have been consistent in saying that the judge acting improperly by contacting Granderson's therapist. I've never said otherwise. However, you original claimed that the appeals judge said she abused her power. The appeals judge never said that. Acting improperly does not equal abuse of power in the way that you have been implying. The appeals judge said she acted improperly. He did not say she abused her power.

None of what you are saying changes the fact that if you do what Granderson was accused of doing in the state of Wyoming, you are guilty of a crime that could put you in prison for up to 18 months.

None of what you are saying changes the fact that what he was accused of doing is a serious crime. It's nothing less than depraved to try to downplay what he was accused of as "no big deal" or "boys being boys" or "they were asking for it by sleeping in his bed." End of story.

 

[StudioSaint]

Yes you are correct, however throughout this thread you haven’t accepted the details or the context surrounding the Plea Agreement.

I have accepted the details and context of this case, including the accusations. I haven't once argued for or against Granderson's innocence or guilt. I know I'm in no position to have a well informed opinion as to his innocence or guilt. No one on this site knows enough to have a well informed opinion regarding his innocence or guilt.

You have repeatedly misrepresented the facts of the accusations against Granderson.

You have repeatedly used your misrepresentation of the actual accusations to prop up your flawed and biased opinion that Gradnerson wasn't accused of doing anything worthy of 6 months in prison.

You have repeatedly misrepresented the facts of the appeals judge's legal reasoning for over turning the initial judge.

You have repeatedly used your misrepresentation of the appeals judge's legal reasoning to prop up your flawed and biased opinion that the judge "abused her power" because she's hell bent on"sticking it to these evil things that have penises!" You completely exposed yourself, where you're coming from and what you are all about with that single statement.

I'm not the one who has had trouble accepting the full details and context of this case. I'm not the one who has repeatedly misrepresented the full details and context of this case.

Looking forward to your next go around.

 

[The Reejer]

According to the affidavit, the victims went to university police with a sexual assault complaint on the morning of Nov. 26, alleging Granderson had “touched them sexually, without their permission, while they were sleeping” after watching a movie at Granderson’s off-campus apartment the night before.
Victim 2 said she was awakened in the bed where all three of them were sleeping when Granderson touched her right breast with his left hand. She said Granderson did this three times, and each time she moved his arm and hand away from her body, according to the affidavit, before moving closer toward Victim 1 to try to create more distance between herself and Granderson.


According to the affidavit, Granderson reached over to pull her back toward him, and she felt his genitals against her body. The victim told investigators after she felt his hand in her pants, she sat up, moved toward the opposite side of the bed and complained of the heat in the room, at which point Granderson removed his hand, rolled over and turned on a fan, according to the affidavit.
Victim 1 also alleged she woke up when she felt Granderson’s hand “touching her buttocks,” according to the affidavit, and that she knew it was Granderson’s hand because it was much larger than Victim 2’s hands. The woman told police Granderson touched her genitals, prompting her to roll over onto her belly, which caused his hand to come out of her pants. She also recalled Victim 2 sitting up in bed at one point that morning and making a comment about how hot it was in the room, according to the affidavit.


Victim 2 tried to wake up Victim 1 by tugging on her T-shirt, but that didn’t work. She then sent her a text message at 5:45 a.m. that read, “I have something to tell you,” according to the affidavit. But Victim 1 said she didn’t see it until after Granderson left the apartment.
Victim 1 responded to Victim 2’s text around 7:16 a.m., saying, “I already know what it is bro. I was praying it didn’t happen to you too,” according to the affidavit.
Both of the women informed a Laramie Police Department officer, who took over the investigation because the alleged incident occurred off campus, that there had been no prior “romantic, intimate or sexual contact” between them and Granderson and that they never gave him permission to touch them, according to the affidavit.

Sexual assault, battery charges against former UW football player involve two women

LARAMIE — The sexual assault and sexual battery charges filed last week against former Wyoming football standout Carl Granderson involve two alleged victims, court documents show.

trib.com

Thanks for the link Crosswatt. See it’s not too hard StudioSaint, that’s all that I wanted. However it seems that the actual social and psychological damages occurred after the incident and supposedly were perpetrated by people other than Granderson.

And I have a problem with the affidavit. Ok, so a guy gropes you... you feel scared and violated... so you roll over and go back to sleep? Hmm, sounds kinda fishy, but that might just be me. I do feel for how the girls were supposedly treated after they made the accusations. But if we are going by this 6 months in jail for touching buttocks, then I have to call the police about the times that girls would grab my arse “without permission”, who would pull my pants down to see what I was packing, and would inappropriately grind on me while we were dancing “without my prior permission”.

And StudioSaint, the 18 months jail time for the two accusations is the maximum sentence, the amount of time should be based on the severity of the offense. EX: Littering is also a Class C misdemeanor offense (like charge #2) here in Wyoming which can carry the sentence of 6 months in jail. But if you drop a gum wrapper out of your car window, do you think that you will serve 6 months in jail? And here in Wyoming, Class C Misdemeanor offenses are considered a “minor offense”. Yes his other charge (a Class A Misdemeanor) is more heavier charge, but isn’t as serious as sexual assault, it is just a step above touching.

Granderson was never found guilty of the charges, because he never had the opportunity to take it to a jury trial. Yes he plead no contest to the lesser charges, but it was under the understanding that the plea agreement would be upheld. He was consistently willing to fight for his right to prove his innocence in a trial by jury throughout this process.

 

[StudioSaint]

Thanks for the link Crosswatt. See it’s not too hard StudioSaint...

Did you miss that I posted the same information with a link just 3 posts before Crosswatt did? Did you miss that this is the same information that was provided earlier in this thread, which I repeatedly told you was there for you to easily find? Did you not ever bother to find this information on your own, before repeatedly making false claims regarding what the women accused Granderson of doing?

I'm glad that you have accepted that you were mistaken about what Granderson was accused of doing.

And I have a problem with the affidavit.

Of course you do. You have some serious gall to attack the credibility of the accusers in the same breath that you alleged to have concern about how the women were treated afterwards. You're saying the same things about the women that others harassed them with.

But if we are going by this 6 months in jail for touching buttocks...

Really? Do you have any sense of self-awareness? Do you really have no clue how transparent you are? You just thanked Crosswatt for giving you a link quoting what the women accused Granderson of doing. Granderson didn't just touch one of their butts. You know that. We all know you know that. We all know without a doubt now that you are being dishonest and intentionally deceptive.

You've just exposed yourself again. This time you've left no room for any doubt about what you are up to and what your intentions are in this thread. You are here to deceive people about what Granderson was accused of doing. and to try to persuade people that sexual assault is just "boys being boys" and people don't deserve to go to prison for it.

...then I have to call the police about the times that girls would grab my arse “without permission”, who would pull my pants down to see what I was packing, and would inappropriately grind on me while we were dancing “without my prior permission”.

Since you've clearly demonstrated a willingness to be dishonest and deceptive, I'm calling BS on this ever actually happening to you "without your permission" or consent. Sounds a lot like the fantasies of someone who is involuntarily celibate, but that's just me.

On the off chance there is any truth to what you said, then it is your absolute right to report these women to the police. If you felt violated, then you should report this crime to the police and these women should be convicted of their crimes and spend up to 18 months in prison for their crimes against you as would be consistent with the laws of Wyoming.

And StudioSaint, the 18 months jail time for the two accusations is the maximum sentence...

I know which is why i clearly stated up to 18 months in prison. You're not saying anything that anyone doesn't already know.

Yes his other charge (a Class A Misdemeanor) is more heavier charge, but isn’t as serious as sexual assault...

Either you have no respect for the truth or you have serious reading comprehension problems. One of the charges against Granderson is sexual battery. Battery is an actual physical assault, therefore what Granderson is accused of is most definitely a form of physical, sexual assault. You are relentless in your mission to try to downplay the seriousness and severity of what Granderson is accused of.

It's not just your mission in this thread. It's your sole mission on this website. You joined this website to post in this thread and you have only posted in this thread since you joined. Your profile has said since the day you joined that you are in Oklahama City, yet you have said you are in Wyoming from the day you joined all the way through your last post. You have repeatedly made dishonest claims which is why you never provide source citations, because you know that most of what you are saying isn't true.

You're not here to discuss, you are here to deceive and mislead.

...it is just a step above touching.

And this is the lie you want people to believe. That Granderson is accused of just innocently touching these women. He was accused of sexual battery which carries a sentence of up to 1 year in prison and unlawful touching which carries a sentence of up to 6 months in jail. He was oringinally charged with felony sexual assault, be he plead that down to the lessor crimes.

Only a depraved and deranged person would try to equate what Granderson is accused of doing to dropping a gum wrapper out of a car window or some other similar "minor offense."

Granderson was never found guilty of the charges, because he never had the opportunity to take it to a jury trial.

He had the opportunity to go to trial. The choice was completely his. He chose to plea to lessor charges instead of going to trial. Only he knows why he did that, no one else does regardless of what they may think.

He was consistently willing to fight for his right to prove his innocence in a trial by jury throughout this process.

Like anyone charged with a crime, he was consistently willing to avoid going to prison. Avoiding prison was more important to him than proving his innocence, that's why he took the plea instead of going to trial. It's what most people would do in his predicament, regardless of innocence or guilt. His accepting the plea agreement as long as there was no prison attached does not prove either his innocence or his guilt.

Only the three parties involved will ever know if Granderson is innocent or guilty as charged, but arguing his innocence has not been your mission here. You've consistently been on a mission to deceive people into believing that what Granderson is accused of doing is no big deal and that sending anyone to prison for doing what Grandeson is accused of doing is an unjust abuse of power.

 

[The Reejer]

I thanked the other poster because he actually gave a link to the source material. Something that I repeatedly asked you for, but you were too vacant to understand my requests.

In regards to your inability to understand the legal difference between sexual assault and sexual battery, is just astounding. Because I even outlined the sentencing guidelines for each offense, but I guess I need to explain it to you once more. Sexual Assault is a Felony charge and carries the max penalty of 15 years, while Sexual Battery is a Class A Misdemeanor with the max penalty of one year. But don’t let the facts get in the way, because it is all about how it makes you feel... and the phrase Sexual Battery obviously triggers your feels. And if you reread my previous post you will see that I directly called the Class C Misdemeanor a “minor offense” because that is how it is defined under Wyoming Law.

And go back and read my hypothetical, it is pretty damn close to the affidavit statements given by the girls on what happened that night. I just didn’t say that the person pushed the hand away three times, I just said once. So I am so sorry for understating how egregious those additional two times were. I didn’t understand how it hurt you so bad that I left those two actions out of my story.

I didn’t equate his case to dropping the gum wrapper, I was simply making a distinction between severity of actions in regards to sentencing. Sorry that I didn’t make that more clear for you. I will try to simplify my examples, or I will attempt to clarify my intentions more for you.

Out of curiosity, did you major in women’s studies, or are you a victim yourself? Because you are either well versed in victimhood, or you are just a victim. I didn’t fantasize about the acts of what the the girls did to me when I was in school, but I didn’t think it was a big deal. The initial case that I explained that happened to me when I was a young kid, I did think was a big deal, and I explained why. But I decided never to be anyone’s victim, and used that incident to make myself stronger. But it’s all good, you can attack me for being molested when I was a child, because I honestly don’t give a crap what you think.

And although I don’t think that these girls “deserved” to get groped, I still question their thought processes of stripping down into their underwear and getting into bed with a guy, and expecting him not to feel that they were interested in him sexually. I had friends in school. But I never stripped down and jumped in the sack with them.

 

[StudioSaint]

@The Reejer, if you can't be trusted to be accurate and honest about something as clear cut and easily verified as sexual battery being a type of sexual assault, how can you be trusted to be accurate and honest about anything else you say?

...he actually gave a link to the source material. Something that I repeatedly asked you for...

In addition to repeatedly telling you that all the links you were asking for were already posted in this thread, I also gave you this link to source material that you asked for:

Sexual assault, battery charges against former UW football player involve two women

LARAMIE — The sexual assault and sexual battery charges filed last week against former Wyoming football standout Carl Granderson involve two alleged victims, court documents show.

trib.com

I provided that link before you blatantly and verifiably lied twice by claiming that I never provided a link to you.

...the legal difference between sexual assault and sexual battery...

Sexual battery is legally a type of sexual assault in the state of Wyoming. Here's the same link I previously provided to you regarding Wyoming's sexual battery laws which are part of their sexual assault laws:

2014 Wyoming Statutes :: TITLE 6 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 2 - OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON :: ARTICLE 3 - SEXUAL ASSAULT :: 6-2-313. Sexual battery.

law.justia.com

This is directly quoted from that source. This is the title of the Wyoming criminal code regarding sexual battery.

TITLE 6 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES​

CHAPTER 2 OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON​

ARTICLE 3 - SEXUAL ASSAULT​

6-2-313. Sexual battery.​

It shows beyond any doubt and plain as day that under the criminal code of Wyoming, sexual battery is a type of sexual assault. That's a verified and irrefutable fact from this point forward.

I previously posted that same link to that same source material which details Wyoming's sexual battery law, so this is not new information to you or anyone else:

2014 Wyoming Statutes :: TITLE 6 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 2 - OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON :: ARTICLE 3 - SEXUAL ASSAULT :: 6-2-313. Sexual battery.

law.justia.com

You replied to that post, so you were already aware that sexual battery is a type of sexual assault in Wyoming.

It's obvious you're not an idiot, so I can only conclude you are being intentionally dishonest and blatantly acting in bad faith.

It bears repeating, if you can't be trusted to be accurate and honest about something as clear cut and easily verified as sexual battery being a type of sexual assault, how can you be trusted to be accurate and honest about anything else you say?

 

[livefromDC]

@The Reejer, if you can't be trusted to be accurate and honest about something as clear cut and easily verified as sexual battery being a type of sexual assault, how can you be trusted to be accurate and honest about anything else you say?

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In addition to repeatedly telling you that all the links you were asking for were already posted in this thread, I also gave you this link to source material that you asked for:

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I provided that link before you blatantly and verifiably lied twice by claiming that I never provided a link to you.

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Sexual battery is legally a type of sexual assault in the state of Wyoming. Here's the same link I previously provided to you regarding Wyoming's sexual battery laws which are part of their sexual assault laws:

2014 Wyoming Statutes :: TITLE 6 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES :: CHAPTER 2 - OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON :: ARTICLE 3 - SEXUAL ASSAULT :: 6-2-313. Sexual battery.

law.justia.com

This is directly quoted from that source. This is the title of the Wyoming criminal code regarding sexual battery.

TITLE 6 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES​

CHAPTER 2 OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON​

ARTICLE 3 - SEXUAL ASSAULT​

6-2-313. Sexual battery.​

It shows beyond any doubt and plain as day that under the criminal code of Wyoming, sexual battery is a type of sexual assault. That's a verified and irrefutable fact from this point forward.

I previously posted that same link to that same source material which details Wyoming's sexual battery law, so this is not new information to you or anyone else:

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You replied to that post, so you were already aware that sexual battery is a type of sexual assault in Wyoming.

It's obvious you're not an idiot, so I can only conclude you are being intentionally dishonest and blatantly acting in bad faith.

It bears repeating, if you can't be trusted to be accurate and honest about something as clear cut and easily verified as sexual battery being a type of sexual assault, how can you be trusted to be accurate and honest about anything else you say?

Your argument falls apart because you're purposely being obtuse. I can't take you seriously.

I'm all for justice. I'm glad a judge stepped in and delivered justice for all parties involved.

 

[StudioSaint]

Your argument falls apart because you're purposely being obtuse. I can't take you seriously.

I'm all for justice. I'm glad a judge stepped in and delivered justice for all parties involved.

I've shown clearly that regardless of if Granderson did what he was accused of or not, the fact is that what he was accused of doing is considered sexual assault in Wyoming. I've now quoted Wyoming's laws twice which shows that to be true. Did you not read the law? Can you show that it's not?

Would you care to explain how exactly I'm being difficult to comprehend or not clear or precise?

I've never argued that Granderson is innocent or guilty or that he should be in prison or not. That's for the courts to decide.

I've only argued and proven that those who say that he was not accused of sexual assault are wrong. What he was accused of and charged with is considered sexual assault. The law in Wyoming is very clear on that point.

 

[livefromDC]

That's good. It's all part of due process. If there was any egregious injustice, then the Supreme Court will likely correct it. If they uphold the sentence, then the sentence is likely just and appropriate.

The sentence was corrected. It was likely unjust and inappropriate.

 

[livefromDC]

My argument remains factually true. You might not choose to accept the truth, but it's still the truth.

Would you care to explain how exactly I'm being difficult to comprehend or not clear or precise?

I've shown clearly that regardless of if he did it or not, the fact is that what he was accused of doing is considered sexual assault in Wyoming. I've now quoted Wyoming's laws twice which shows that to be true. Did you not read the law?

And again, again, and again and again. This thread is not an argument about what is and what isn't law in Wyoming. Sigh...that's why i said you're being obtuse.