Poll Do you think Corona Virus stay at home orders should be lifted? (Mod edited title) (1 Viewer)

[DaveXA]

I hear that!!!! No way I could live in Northern VA, though 270 and the beltway in MD is no walk in the park either....

I love NOVA actually. But then, I don't drive much on the main roads.

 

[Bayouboy]

So for those that think the stay at home orders should continue......until what? As I stated previously, it won't be until July or August that the numbers are at a "safe" level. Do you all really think we should keep the entire economy close for another 90 days?

IMO, a lot of businesses are screwed. A large number of small businesses will not recover. Others will struggle to stay afloat, because folks won't start travelling and eating out like normal (even if stay at home orders are lifted). It will be a dark time economically in the near future IMO. The faster things open and we see the hospitals are gonna be ok....the better. It will give businesses a chance at survival.

 

[DaveXA]

So for those that think the stay at home orders should continue......until what? As I stated previously, it won't be until July or August that the numbers are at a "safe" level. Do you all really think we should keep the entire economy close for another 90 days?

IMO, a lot of businesses are screwed. A large number of small businesses will not recover. Others will struggle to stay afloat, because folks won't start travelling and eating out like normal (even if stay at home orders are lifted). It will be a dark time economically in the near future IMO. The faster things open and we see the hospitals are gonna be ok....the better. It will give businesses a chance at survival.

Couple of thoughts. One, no, the entire economy is not closed. There are quite a few essential and marginally essential businesses operating. Sure, a lot of businesses are hurting and a lot of people have been furloughed or laid off. But many are still working from home. The federal government has done a few things to help tide us over for a bit. It's probably not going to be enough.

As for the virus, I'd say it's really hard to predict what it's going to do. Opening up is already starting and I think in 2-3 weeks we'll have a clearer idea on whether opening up more is a good idea or not. I don't know. If we don't practice mitigation, the economy is gonna be screwed anyway because if you think what we've seen so far is bad, to irresponsibly open things up would be an unmitigated disaster and make our current situation seem like a picnic by comparison.

I think we should open more businesses, as long as it's done smartly and with a clear strategy in place. I'm less worried about the timeline and more concerned with doing this the right way, however long it takes. The virus doesn't care about arbitrary timeliness. We need to be both proactive, and somewhat reactive to what we learn about this virus.

 

[Eeyore]

People In Wisconsin Are Being Arrested, Charged For Violating Stay-At-Home Order

Gov. Tony Evers issued his stay-at-home order two weeks ago, and some local police departments have already started to issue citations and refer charges for people accused of violating the order. In Fond du Lac County, the district attorney’s office has filed charges against 10 people so far for...

www.wpr.org

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Former police officer arrested in park for throwing ball with daughter due to coronavirus social distancing rules

The police department has apologized for the arrest, calling it an "overreach."

abcnews.go.com

If this sort of police behavior doesn't raise red flags for you, I'm not really sure what will. I usually have a hard time finding any actual law that's been broken - usually it's just executive fiat driving these police actions.
Naturally there are some cases in which a law was, ostensibly, broken - like the guys who were carrying firearms on a property where alcohol is sold.

Crocodiles acting like crocodiles isn't news. If you see a cop, stay away. They don't see people, they see enemies.

 

[Bayouboy]

Stopped at Rouse's and Lowe's in Thibodaux this morning. Nobody is paying attention to the stay at home orders anymore. They literally didn't have many parking spots available at each location.

Open up. Let the other businesses have a shot at the customer.

 

[whoah whoah]

What do you feel is the right thing

yup, totally threw me and my vote off

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Stopped at Rouse's and Lowe's in Thibodaux this morning. Nobody is paying attention to the stay at home orders anymore. They literally didn't have many parking spots available at each location.

Open up. Let the other businesses have a shot at the customer.

Everybody is driving at 90 so just make the speed limit 90
how does that make sense?

 

[livefromDC]

 

[Bayouboy]

Everybody is driving at 90 so just make the speed limit 90
how does that make sense?

Yep....kinda like having the speed limit at 55. Nobody got time for dat.

 

[NOLAJM504]

I’m a San Diego resident myself. Wish these people would stand 6 feet apart while they protest but I fully support the protest in general. San Diego in particular is a very spread-out city and public transportation is basically nonexistent. We’ve been very good about following the orders and the spread has been pretty minimal here.

The thing is, every single state is going to adopt a “vulnerable” people stay at home, everyone else go back to work strategy at some point, whether it be next week or 6 weeks from now. Governor Newsome just announced that his reopening plan for California, which is inherently moronic given how internally diverse California is. San Francisco/Oakland has a million people right on top of each other while LA has 5 million extremely spread out. The middle of California is very rural. There is no reason to require the entire state to act in unison.

We were told at the beginning of this that the goal was to spread out the number of infections over time, NOT to reduce the number of infections as much as possible. The latter is a ridiculous goal to set; the minute any state lifts its stay at home orders, whether this week or 6 weeks from now, there is going to be a second wave of this thing. It is inevitable. The reality is we’re experiencing one of the most tragic events in the history of the country and trade offs will have to be made. Anyone dodging that fact, or claiming people who want to open are fine with “sacrificing” people, is full of sheet.

If you’re looking at how many lives this thing takes until we develop a vaccine, which is probably a year away, I really don’t think states who choose to stay locked down for weeks still to come will lose any fewer people in the long run than states who are opening now; you’re just delaying it. The difference is the states who let the younger, healthier people out now won’t be AS economically devastated. This is why the chief emergency officer at the WHO is now saying there are lessons to be learned from Sweden. They won’t be getting a second wave. There’s no way “out” of this mess; the only realistic option is to try and protect the most vulnerable, let people out, trust your fellow citizens and business to act responsibly, and trying to stave off the worst Depression in the history of the country.

What if vulnerable people live with the non-vulnerable?

 

[travelingsaintsfan]

What if vulnerable people live with the non-vulnerable?

Also what if the hard headed vunerable people refuse to stay at home. While getting a few groceries yesterday I stayed in the car while my wife went inside. She had her mask on. I was surprised at the amount of older, overweight and unhealthy looking people there were without a mask on.

 

[NOLAJM504]

Also what if the hard headed vunerable people refuse to stay at home. While getting a few groceries yesterday I stayed in the car while my wife went inside. She had her mask on. I was surprised at the amount of older, overweight and unhealthy looking people there were without a mask on.

True, and believe me the no mask thing bothers me to no end. That said, I was more or less making a point about innocent vulnerable people who have done everything in their power to stay away from it being caught in the cross hairs of people who aren't vulnerable being forced back to work by people who can't go another few weeks without Applebees, Supercuts or Pumpkin Spice Lattes.

 

[faceman]

Also what if the hard headed vunerable people refuse to stay at home. While getting a few groceries yesterday I stayed in the car while my wife went inside. She had her mask on. I was surprised at the amount of older, overweight and unhealthy looking people there were without a mask on.

I saw the same thing at our local Dollar General yesterday. There were approximately 30 people in the store and I was the only one wearing a mask. That included the cashier who checked me out

 

[jayd265]

i wonder what she did with the time she saved by not spelling out "really"

 

[Eeyore]

i wonder what she did with the time she saved by not spelling out "really"

Maybe she looked up how to spell it?