Gone With The Wind Temporally Removed From HBO MAX (Or How To Look Back On Controversial Media) (1 Viewer)

[Zack Lee]

Disney will never allow Song of the South to see the light of day ever again because of this

what about Princess and The Frog.

 

[superchuck500]

Disney fans are urging the theme park operator to rethink Splash Mountain, a log flume ride based on a nearly 75-year-old movie that has long been criticized for racist themes.

The company has been distancing itself from its controversial 1946 film “Song of the South” for decades now. The movie, set on a plantation after the Civil War, is not included on the new streaming service Disney Plus. And former Walt Disney CEO Bob Iger, now executive chairman, says it won’t ever be.

“I’ve felt as long as I’ve been CEO that ‘Song of the South’ — even with a disclaimer — was just not appropriate in today’s world,” Iger said in March during a shareholder meeting. “It’s just hard, given the depictions in some of those films, to bring them out today without in some form or another offending people, so we’ve decided not to do that.”

Given that, advocates of the change say it’s time the film’s fingerprints be wiped from the company’s theme parks as well. The ride can be found at the Florida, California and Tokyo resorts. Disney plans to reopen its domestic parks next month after closing them because of the coronavirus pandemic.

The push to give the ride a new theme has gained traction on social media and in Change.org petitions in the past week amid a broader national conversation — and massive protests — around racism and injustice sparked by the death of George Floyd. Four former Minneapolis police officers have been charged in connection with his death...........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2020/06/11/disneys-splash-mountain-ride-is-based-song-south-petitioners-want-change-that/

Seems like that's an easy fix - I bet most people don't even think to associate Splash Mountain with Song of the South. Just find some other Disney movie where a log flume ride is remotely relevant and re-brand it.

 

[Saint Jack]

I hadn't thought about adding that in the movie description, but considering, that makes sense.

I mentioned this in my original post, but WB did something similar when they released the uncensored Looney Tunes on DVD.

Here’s the warning I was talking about



And they did the same thing when MGM released Tom and Jerry uncensored on DVD

 

[superchuck500]

My Dad sent me a text that said "Where is all of this going? Now they're going to erase Clark Gable's career?!"

I wrote back "OK Boomer".

Then I waited a bit and said "They're not erasing it. They're just adding an introduction to give a note about the film's context and presentation of certain roles and stereotypes. It's their distribution platform, they can do that if they want and think it is socially helpful."

He didn't write back. I don't think the appreciated the Boomer comment.

 

[Saint Jack]

My Dad sent me a text that said "Where is all of this going? Now they're going to erase Clark Gable's career?!"

I wrote back "OK Boomer".

Then I waited a bit and said "They're not erasing it. They're just adding an introduction to give a note about the film's context and presentation of certain roles and stereotypes. It's their distribution platform, they can do that if they want and think it is socially helpful."

He didn't write back. I don't think the appreciated the Boomer comment.

Just to add, it hasn’t been taken off iTunes. Wal Mart and Target still sell it.
This is just one decision to add context.

 

[mattgdg]

As someone who was forced to watch this (my wife loves it), it's not bad. It's EXTREMELY long and there are parts that drag. But overall, I think everybody should see it once, if not just to see Bonnie Blue imitate Evel Kneivel.

 

[Super44]

I will lose no sleep over this

Why? It is theatre. It is not real. So let us now retroactively try to downplay a classic theatrical performance, because it is too racist? It portrays a time in this country’s sad history. Not all theatre has to be candy canes and unicorns.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Why? It is theatre. It is not real. So let us now retroactively try to downplay a classic theatrical performance, because it is too racist? It portrays a time in this country’s sad history. Not all theatre has to be candy canes and unicorns.

The irony is palpable
It IS candy canes and unicorns- that’s one of the main problems with it
When I reached its heights of popularity a good 50 or so years after the events it ‘artistically’ depicts, it was popular for its cold, unblinking look at a troubled past or bc it was propaganda about a myth that descendants had crafted about their forebears?

It’s John Wayne cowboy movie level of bulldroppings

 

[flygirl]

Before anyone says it’s oversensitivity, the full movie will return unedited. It’ll just include a discussion about the stereotypes and probably a warning.

WB did something similar when they released the Looney Tunes to DVD unedited.

Why? It is theatre. It is not real. So let us now retroactively try to downplay a classic theatrical performance, because it is too racist? It portrays a time in this country’s sad history. Not all theatre has to be candy canes and unicorns.
[/QUOTE]
Mark Twain, my favorite author ever, has been a victim of attempted editing as well. I dont really care about Gone With the Wind, but please dont burn or change Mark Twains writings.

 

[Eeyore]

I mentioned this in my original post, but WB did something similar when they released the uncensored Looney Tunes on DVD.

Here’s the warning I was talking about



And they did the same thing when MGM released Tom and Jerry uncensored on DVD

I have that set. I think that a brief discussion regarding the subject matter, the white washing of slavery in the movie, the desire to let a classic remain unchanged, and the need for the discussion in the absence of historical accuracy in the movie could work if it's brief, well done, and if you can't skip it.

The Looney Tunes disclaimer fell on deaf ears. All that my Godson wanted to know is if Elmer was going to shoot Daffy now, or wait until they got home.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Mark Twain, my favorite author ever, has been a victim of attempted editing as well. I dont really care about Gone With the Wind, but please dont burn or change Mark Twains writings.

Honest question and im
Not sure where I come down on this

Would you rather edited Mark Twain or no Mark Twain?

If as a teacher I can’t find the way to present work that does not diminish my students, then I don’t need to use that work

Shakespeare gets edited for content/context all of the time
Why not Sam?

 

[flygirl]

Honest question and im
Not sure where I come down on this

Would you rather edited Mark Twain or no Mark Twain?

If as a teacher I can’t find the way to present work that does not diminish my students, then I don’t need to use that work

Shakespeare gets edited for content/context all of the time
Why not Sam?

I would rather "no mark twain" than to see his brilliant work edited. He already wrote prefaces, explaining himself. And the slave, Jim, was always the good guy. Mark Twain is so much more than Tom Sawyer, and Huck Finn. I simply adore him, and I think it would be a travesty for young people of all races to be denied the original writings, along with great discussions about the writings.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I would rather "no mark twain" than to see his brilliant work edited. He already wrote prefaces, explaining himself. And the slave, Jim, was always the good guy. Mark Twain is so much more than Tom Sawyer, and Huck Finn. I simply adore him, and I think it would be a travesty for young people of all races to be denied the original writings, along with great discussions about the writings.

I don’t think there’s any danger of losing his work
And to add, he’s a hero of mine for the danger he put himself in rescuing maxim gorky

I will say that in my 20s as a practicing artist and student of culture, I held art as sacred
I cringe at that idea now
I see no use for encasing art in amber except as an example of cultural gatekeeping
The art has been made, artists are long dead so neither gains anything
It’s just a subtle reminder of who gets to come in the room and where they get to sit
I’m not for that

 

[flygirl]

I don’t think there’s any danger of losing his work
And to add, he’s a hero of mine for the danger he put himself in rescuing maxim gorky

I will say that in my 20s as a practicing artist and student of culture, I held art as sacred
I cringe at that idea now
I see no use for encasing art in amber except as an example of cultural gatekeeping
The art has been made, artists are long dead so neither gains anything
It’s just a subtle reminder of who gets to come in the room and where they get to sit
I’m not for that

I think that Twains work is so much more powerful, left original, but you are right, it can be accessed. And I do appreciate the "Sam" reference. Have you read any of his other stuff? Innocents abroad is something I never tire of. I listen to audio books online all the time. It's free, since it's in the public domain. Edited yet again to say that John Greenman is the best reader af anything Twain. He volunteers his reading skills and is as good, or better a reader that I've ever heard. It is all free to listen. A google will easily find it.

 

[James Spader]

What’s next, the movie Glory.