The Playmaker Michael Irvin Pulled from All Super Bowl Coverage/NFL Network (09/14 EDIT: Irvin settles his defamation suit w/hotel, returns to NFLN) (1 Viewer)

[Madmarsha]

or packing other very obvious endowment.

I was starting to think John Holmes territory.

 

[CowtownSaint]

Okay, at this point I feel like I speak for the board when I say that we officially need pictures of mikedre. It seems like we might have a dime piece in our midst. Just driving the ladies wild and forcing them to oggle him everywhere he goes!

Let us see what you're working with and maybe we could give you some tips

“let’s see what your working with”

 

[Hoodoo]

I don't want us to get all up in the weeds over this. I love talking to strangers. I love if a man has indicated he thinks I'm attractive. But there are clearly women who would find that at the least not complimentary and unwelcome; at the most, aggressive I guess.

I had a man once tell me a couple years ago in a social setting and also in front of his wife: "I admire you." I guess I looked confused and he explained: "I just think you are a very attractive woman". I smiled and said, "Oh, thank you very much." Took it at face value that that's all he meant, no more, no less. Since his wife didn't seem alarmed, I'm guessing he's done that sort of thing before. I hate to think as people we can't just say nice things to other people.

Had a coworkers wife tell me, in front of him and my wife at a Christmas party that she wished her husband was built like me. It was very awkward and uncomfortable to say the least. They're no longer married.

 

[HoustonSaint68]

I’ve been in this boat before. It’s a fun game.

Women look just as much as men; they’re just more slick and subtle with it.

My question isn't "whether", it's "why".

 

[HoustonSaint68]

I was starting to think John Holmes territory.

Yeah, I accept that there are a lot of size queens out there but, if it's an ongoing issue, that particular cause would have to be in that territory absent the presence of a Speedo.

My money is on him actually being a 10+ and not admitting it.

 

[49erKiller]

I was starting to think John Holmes territory.

or Ron Jeremy...?

 

[LAhotsauce]

Asking for her number, is considered "holla" ing?

But you probably shouldn't even be asking women for their number while they are at work like the woman Irvin was interacting with was.

From my understanding, the encounter in the lobby was their 2nd interaction. After they spoke the first time, this women left the bar where she worked to go talk to Michael again in the lobby. Which is why her boss was angry. So while at work, she seeked him out to talk again. You know women do that as much as men right?

Obviously if you are offering to by a drink, you'd be somewhere were drinks are being served and flirting would be expected.

I don't think men should make habit of trying to get women's numbers just out and about, especially if the woman is at work. Women shouldn't be put in the position of having to turn down advances when they are just trying to go about their day.

This conversation doesn't have anything to do with Michael Irvin.

Here you are again putting the onus on men, when women "holla" at men while at work just the same in their own way. You are all over this thread acting like women are weak innocent creatures that need to be protected from all these circling male vultures. Have you ever had a woman hit on you while at work? Or anywhere at all?

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[St. Geezy]

My question isn't "whether", it's "why".

I think culturally, women being aggressors sometimes carries a stigma. It's frowned upon by society, sadly.

That's one factor; the other is that they're programmed (either naturally or through cultural norms) to be attracted to confidence and to be pursued, so to speak.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

From my understanding, the encounter in the lobby was their 2nd interaction. After they spoke the first time, this women left the bar where she worked to go talk to Michael again in the lobby. Which is why her boss was angry. So while at work, she seeked him out to talk again. You know women do that as much as men right?



Here you are again putting the onus on men, when women "holla" at men while at work just the same in their own way. You are all over this thread acting like women are weak innocent creatures that need to be protected from all these circling male vultures. Have you ever had a woman hit on you while at work? Or anywhere at all?

You are correct, i am putting the onus on men. It's not the same when women do it. Sorry, life isn't fair.

 

[Blackcricket]

Was she even supposed to be talking to him? There's a manager like person to the left looking at her and then claps his hands. Why didn't she just run over to him? There's a security guy circling around why doesn't she just shimmy over to him or something. This is employees violating a policy and covering their butts. The escalation they couldn't control.

 

[saint_drago]

You are correct, i am putting the onus on men. It's not the same when women do it. Sorry, life isn't fair.

Sorry, life isn't fair? Lol what kind of argument is that? You could say that about anything. Girls getting beat in sports by boys who identify as female, "Sorry, life isn't fair". Laws banning boys who identify as female from competing against natural born females, "Sorry, life isn't fair". The former would elicit little outrage but the latter would have people up in arms.

It's true, life isn't fair but it isn't fair to anyone. You can say, "Sorry, life isn't fair" but if someone said the same thing about women dealing with advances from men following their most basic biological imperative, it would be inappropriate and offensive.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

Sorry, life isn't fair? Lol what kind of argument is that? You could say that about anything. Girls getting beat in sports by boys who identify as female, "Sorry, life isn't fair". Laws banning boys who identify as female from competing against natural born females, "Sorry, life isn't fair". The former would elicit little outrage but the latter would have people up in arms.

It's true, life isn't fair but it isn't fair to anyone. You can say, "Sorry, life isn't fair" but if someone said the same thing about women dealing with advances from men following their most basic biological imperative, it would be inappropriate and offensive.

I've already stated my opinion quite thoroughly. I'm not one of those people who think anyone else has to agree with me.

Guys just need to realize that they are running the risk of offending women, and if the woman gets offended, it's not her fault.

 

[saint_drago]

I've already stated my opinion quite thoroughly. I'm not one of those people who think anyone else has to agree with me.

Guys just need to realize that they are running the risk of offending women, and if the woman gets offended, it's not her fault.

Are men really saying it's the woman's fault? I think most dudes understand if they try to hit on a lady and she shuts it down it's not her fault. Just looking at this video it didn't seem like Irvin made a big scene like it was the woman's fault. The hotel made some serious claims that the video pretty clearly disproves. I think that's what he took issue with.

And yes, you have stated your opinion and I understand you don't care if anyone agrees with you. That's cool and the gang my dude. I'm just trying to see where you are coming from. I appreciate your perspective.