Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (22 Viewers)

[Optimistic Ozzy]

Posted this before
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This is what I heard when the vaccines were first rolled out

If you are vaccinated you are much less likely to get infected with Covid

If you are vaccinated and do get infected with Covid you are much less likely to die

If you are vaccinated and do get infected with Covid you are much less likely to get seriously sick

If you are vaccinated and do get infected with Covid you are much less likely to infect someone else

If you are vaccinated and do get infected with Covid and you do infect someone else, they are much less likely to die or get seriously sick

What more do you want a vaccine to do?

You left out "If you get the vax, YOU WILL NOT CONTRACT COVID, NOR CAN YOU SPREAD COVID".
That's when I decided not to get the vax, because I knew that was BS the POTUS was spewing.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

Just like the guy who wore his seat belt, got into an accident and died anyway

Why does the one healthy guy who got vaxxed, got covid and died carry more weight that the millions who got vaxxed got covid, didn't die but would have without it?

Speculate much?

 

[bigdaddysaints]

What knocked him out of his seat?

I would suggest that might have been the cause of it all. And that by the time that had occurred, it was likely that it had also knocked the car completely out of control, that it would have been unlikely that the car could have been brought back under control in time to have not hit the people waiting for the bus.

BTW- I always wear seat belts. I learned that early in life while flying aircraft. This reasoning does apply to aircraft in a way that it doesn't apply to cars. It's a matter of timing.

Turbulence can throw a pilot out of his seat, when if he wasn't thrown from his seat there would still have been time to recover, and bring that aircraft home.

Maybe me using 'thrown out of the seat" was the wrong phrase. Being slightly jolted where as if wearing a seatbelt would have kept it to a minimum could be a big difference.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

You left out "If you get the vax, YOU WILL NOT CONTRACT COVID, NOR CAN YOU SPREAD COVID".
That's when I decided not to get the vax, because I knew that was BS the POTUS was spewing.

so because he was wrong, that is what made your decision. sopunds like a purely political choice, not medical..

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

so because he was wrong, that is what made your decision. sopunds like a purely political choice, not medical..

Don't assume. There were no studies saying it would prevent contraction or the spread. But when the Buffoon spewed it out, I knew it was BS.
That just solidified it for me.
You see, it should have always been a voluntary thing, not a shaming thing. Some people just can't admit that and double down.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

so because he was wrong, that is what made your decision. sopunds like a purely political choice, not medical..

And it wasn't just the POTUS, it was the MSM spreading the lies, along with many physicians. So no, my decision had nothing to do with politics.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

Don't assume. There were no studies saying it would prevent contraction or the spread. But when the Buffoon spewed it out, I knew it was BS.
That just solidified it for me.
You see, it should have always been a voluntary thing, not a shaming thing. Some people just can't admit that and double down.

The other guy said to drink bleach and use UV lights internally. maybe we should have all listen to him instead...

 

[bigdaddysaints]

but only an uneducated person will say that Vaccines don't slow the spread and lessen the severity of any disease that there is a vac for.

 

[SamAndreas]

The driver of a car has a solid steering wheel to hang on to and I haven't had an encounter that it wouldn't have held me where I needed to be when there was a point where I could have still done something to prevent an accident.

(The controls of an aircraft are not solidly positioned like they are in a car. They move forward and backwards with ease.)

However as you said in your post above the passengers in a car are another matter. They can cause an accedent if they are not strapped in. I do know of a case where a driver had a passenger land on top of him when it did prevent him from bringing that car to a stop.

I also know of a time when an ice chest of beer in a back seat which had not been tied down caused a driver to at first try to stop at a stop light but when that ice chest tipped over and that ice cold water flowed across his rear, that caused him to gasp, and in the course of gasping he perhaps didn't maintain the pressure on the brakes, and that may have caused his car to impact the car who was legally crossing in front of him.

Maybe it had some cause for the accident, however we'll never know if he could have stopped the car in time, in any case.

The judge didn't buy that ice cold water explanation, and he was found to have been at fault for the accident.

 

[Arathrael]

And it wasn't just the POTUS, it was the MSM spreading the lies, along with many physicians. So no, my decision had nothing to do with politics.

The reasoning you're applying there is like hearing someone say, "The Saints will go undefeated and win the Super Bowl this season," and then saying, "That means they're a terrible team and will lose every game." It makes no sense. Some people overstating something doesn't mean what they're saying has no merit at all, and it certainly doesn't change the truth of other things they've said, let alone what completely different people have said.

It was, and is, a fact that the vaccines were shown to be effective, reducing the chance of infection (and hence the chance of spreading infection; can't be infectious if you're not infected), and very effective at reducing the personal risk of severe disease and death. That they weren't as effective as some hoped against spreading infection, particularly with the arrival of the Omicron variant, doesn't change that.

They're also vastly safer than getting COVID. Whether you work out or not.

 

[SWJJ]

but only an uneducated person will say that Vaccines don't slow the spread and lessen the severity of any disease that there is a vac for.

I get where you are coming from, but there is a healthy distrust of government. Saying "This Vaccine" doesn't slow the spread... is not the same as saying no vaccines do.

I know a LOT of very educated and intelligent people who are completely suspicious about all things COVID (including the vaccine)

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

I get where you are coming from, but there is a healthy distrust of government. Saying "This Vaccine" doesn't slow the spread... is not the same as saying no vaccines do.

I know a LOT of very educated and intelligent people who are completely suspicious about all things COVID (including the vaccine)

I don't know if it was a "healthy" distrust.

 

[SamAndreas]

Maybe me using 'thrown out of the seat" was the wrong phrase. Being slightly jolted where as if wearing a seatbelt would have kept it to a minimum could be a big difference.

I will compromise with you where passengers are concerned. It's very important that they be strapped in to prevent accidents. The driver needs to wear a seat belt to be able to insist that the passengers also wear seat belts.

The law rightfully takes that into account and insists that all in a car must wear seat belts.

 

[SamAndreas]

I get where you are coming from, but there is a healthy distrust of government. Saying "This Vaccine" doesn't slow the spread... is not the same as saying no vaccines do.

I know a LOT of very educated and intelligent people who are completely suspicious about all things COVID (including the vaccine)

Yeah, conspiracy theories are like diseases in that anyone who is not careful can catch them, and even die from them.