Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered?

[bigdaddysaints]

That reasoning is pretty slender. By the time that someone has been thrown from behind the wheel the accident has already occurred. The use of brakes will have become moot.

A better line of reasoning would be to say, if you don't wear your seat belts it could adversely affect someone else because they will be very sad that you are dead. You might leave a minor child without a parent. Might leave your grandchildren without a grandpa.

slender sure. The driver not wearing the seatbelt not being aboe to properly maintain control can also kill or seriusly hurt others in the car with them.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

We had a poster here who was younger than you who was a fitness nut and in excellent health. He thought the same way you do. He died from Covid. Left behind his wife and kid because didn't think he needed the vax. But hey, it's your life and health.

So he would have lived if he got the vax? Like the guy I knew that got the vax and was healthy, got Covid and died?
But I am glad you said it's "your life and health" At least you're not like the nimrods who said "you're selfish and will kill someone" if you don't get the vax.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

So he would have lived if he got the vax? Like the guy I knew that got the vax and was healthy, got Covid and died?
But I am glad you said it's "your life and health" At least you're not like the nimrods who said "you're selfish and will kill someone" if you don't get the vax.

It's not worth fighting about anymore, but i 100% am in that camp.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

So he would have lived if he got the vax? Like the guy I knew that got the vax and was healthy, got Covid and died?
But I am glad you said it's "your life and health" At least you're not like the nimrods who said "you're selfish and will kill someone" if you don't get the vax.

so, you are on the side that Vaccines don't work?

I mean, people who wear seatbelts die in car accidents. People on Motorcycles die while wearing helments, does that mean helments and seatbelts don't work?

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

If someone isn't wearing their seatbelt, and a minor accident or an icident causes them be thrown from behind the wheel or causes them to not hit the brakes properly and because they aren't behind the wheel, they can hit and kill people in other vehicles, or even people walking. So YES, you not wearing a seatbelt can still kill others,

I agree that wearing a seatbelt is smart and it's the law. But no one seems to be commenting on the "if you get the vax you can't contract or spread Covid" part.
Wonder why that is?

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

It's not worth fighting about anymore, but i 100% am in that camp.

You're in the camp of, "you're selfish and could kill someone if you don't get the vax" ?
Just making sure I'm clear on that.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

You're in the camp of, "you're selfish and could kill someone if you don't get the vax" ?
Just making sure I'm clear on that.

yea

 

[bigdaddysaints]

I agree that wearing a seatbelt is smart and it's the law. But no one seems to be commenting on the "if you get the vax you can't contract or spread Covid" part.
Wonder why that is?

do you think the Vaccine helped drastically in the decline of Covid?
You won't find anyone in this thread who ever said if you got the vaccine "you can't contract or spead Covid"...

 

[sfidc3]

We had a poster here who was younger than you who was a fitness nut and in excellent health. He thought the same way you do. He died from Covid. Left behind his wife and kid because didn't think he needed the vax. But hey, it's your life and health.

Because ignorance knows no bounds, and because they were incredibly lucky, fortunate.....they think that is some kind of justification....

I also knew someone who had a friend who was 38 years old, fit, healthy, no known pre existing conditions that died from Covid and left a widow with 2 kids.....the folks who are still parroting this BS about the Covid vaccines have been proven wrong time and time again and are morons....

 

[Optimus Prime]

So he would have lived if he got the vax? Like the guy I knew that got the vax and was healthy, got Covid and died?

Just like the guy who wore his seat belt, got into an accident and died anyway

Why does the one healthy guy who got vaxxed, got covid and died carry more weight that the millions who got vaxxed got covid, didn't die but would have without it?

 

[SamAndreas]

This has actually happened. Driver was knocked out of his seat and car careened out of control and killed multiple people. Iirc it was at a bus stop.

What knocked him out of his seat?

I would suggest that might have been the cause of it all. And that by the time that had occurred, it was likely that it had also knocked the car completely out of control, that it would have been unlikely that the car could have been brought back under control in time to have not hit the people waiting for the bus.

BTW- I always wear seat belts. I learned that early in life while flying aircraft. This reasoning does apply to aircraft in a way that it doesn't apply to cars. It's a matter of timing.

Turbulence can throw a pilot out of his seat, when if he wasn't thrown from his seat there would still have been time to recover, and bring that aircraft home.

 

[DaveXA]

So he would have lived if he got the vax? Like the guy I knew that got the vax and was healthy, got Covid and died?
But I am glad you said it's "your life and health" At least you're not like the nimrods who said "you're selfish and will kill someone" if you don't get the vax.

I absolutely believe if he had gotten the vax, he would have likely experienced a much milder case of Covid. And the vax doesn't mean you're not going to die, but it's orders of magnitude less likely than without the vax. That's just simple proven math.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Posted this before
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This is what I heard when the vaccines were first rolled out

If you are vaccinated you are much less likely to get infected with Covid

If you are vaccinated and do get infected with Covid you are much less likely to die

If you are vaccinated and do get infected with Covid you are much less likely to get seriously sick

If you are vaccinated and do get infected with Covid you are much less likely to infect someone else

If you are vaccinated and do get infected with Covid and you do infect someone else, they are much less likely to die or get seriously sick

What more do you want a vaccine to do?

 

[DaveXA]

What knocked him out of his seat?

I would suggest that might have been the cause of it all. And that by the time that had occurred, it was likely that it had also knocked the car completely out of control, that it would have been unlikely that the car could have been brought back under control in time to have not hit the people waiting for the bus.

BTW- I always wear seat belts. I learned that early in life while flying aircraft. This reasoning does apply to aircraft in a way that it doesn't apply to cars. It's a matter of timing.

Turbulence can throw a pilot out of his seat, when if he wasn't thrown from his seat there would still have been time to recover, and bring that aircraft home.

There was an accident investigation and the guy was driving at a fairly low rate of speed. They essentially concluded that had he been wearing his seatbelt, he would have been able to maintain control of the car, but because he lost grip of the steering wheen and couldn't brake, the car turned into a crowd of people waiting at a bus stop. It was in the DMV area, although I'm drawing a blank on where I read it.