Haener film looks better than Young. (2 Viewers)

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Not according to Mike Detillier. He said that Hafner looks polished. But he is is small like Drew was.

as in Hugh?

 

[TribuneUK]

To be more clear, I'm thinking more like 2020 Brees.

That's the post-peak Brees arm I was thinking of.

 

[oodank]

well, it doesn't sound like Snake Jake's arm strength is an issue peak or post according to the reports coming out of camp.

 

[Mamba]

well, it doesn't sound like Snake Jake's arm strength is an issue peak or post according to the reports coming out of camp.

Can you point me to those reports that break down his arm strength? Or are you just referring to comments about Haener going "6-for-6" and Haener being "Camp MVP" so far, etc?

 

[DavidM]

I don't think his arm will be a liability. It is for Book.

Scouting reports for Haener are mixed but the consensus seems to be average arm strength. I haven't read a single concern about it since camp opened but we will know soon enough. It was evident in the first preseason game that Book played in that he probably doesn't have enough arm talent for the NFL.

 

[Mamba]

I don't think his arm will be a liability. It is for Book.

Scouting reports for Haener are mixed but the consensus seems to be average arm strength. I haven't read a single concern about it since camp opened but we will know soon enough. It was evident in the first preseason game that Book played in that he probably doesn't have enough arm talent for the NFL.

I'm not basing my opinion on scouting reports. Just trusting my eyes. I think his ceiling is a high-capacity 2nd string QB. Which, for a 4th round pick, is about what you'd hope for.

 

[DavidM]

I'm not basing my opinion on scouting reports. Just trusting my eyes. I think his ceiling is a high-capacity 2nd string QB. Which, for a 4th round pick, is about what you'd hope for.

I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, just stating my opinion which differs from yours. If he turns into a quality backup, that's great, but I don't know that his arm sets his ceiling there.

 

[bobad]

I'm not basing my opinion on scouting reports. Just trusting my eyes. I think his ceiling is a high-capacity 2nd string QB. Which, for a 4th round pick, is about what you'd hope for.

Jake has a lively arm, he can make all the throws. My eyes say his arm is maybe a little stronger than peak Brees, which was at SD before the injury. I think it's about like Marino's, who could throw it 60 yards, which isn't weak.

 

[Mamba]

I think it's about like Marino's, who could throw it 60 yards, which isn't weak.

Marino literally had one of the strongest arms in NFL history. Maybe top 5 all time. He could probably throw it 60 yards left-handed.

 

[Rouxble]

Marino literally had one of the strongest arms in NFL history. Maybe top 5 all time. He could probably throw it 60 yards left-handed.

When I first watched Haener highlights, I also wasn’t impressed by the arm strength. He made some solid deep throws, but I don’t remember seeing a lot of trademark NFL throws (which have a lower trajectory and more velocity).

For comparison, Dalton could float passes to Olave or Shaheed, but he couldn’t throw it on a line like Carr or Winston can.

I’m interested to see how his arm looks once the preseason games start.

 

[TribuneUK]

Jake has a lively arm, he can make all the throws. My eyes say his arm is maybe a little stronger than peak Brees, which was at SD before the injury. I think it's about like Marino's, who could throw it 60 yards, which isn't weak.

Yeah, being honest, this seems a little enthusiastic. But since arm strength isn't the sole determinant of NFL QB success (hello Kyle Boller and others), it may not matter that much.

 

[DavidM]

Jake has a lively arm, he can make all the throws. My eyes say his arm is maybe a little stronger than peak Brees, which was at SD before the injury. I think it's about like Marino's, who could throw it 60 yards, which isn't weak.

I've posted this article before. I don't have time to re-read all of it right now, and I don't trust my memory to give an accurate summary, but I recall his methodology and analysis are at least interesting. Much more goes into evaluating arm talent than the ability to throw deep and he covers those variables for the QBs at the top of the 2020 class. A free account is now required to read it but I'll post his tl;dr.

TL;DR​

Of the four quarterback prospects, Jordan Love has the strongest arm. With a maximum launch velocity that’s nearly equivalent to a 98 mile per hour fastball, he’s able to make some throws the other QBs cannot. While Tua Tagovailoa’s arm is a concern, he makes up for it with the quickest throwing motion I’ve ever analyzed — yes, it’s faster than Dan Marino’s. Joe Burrow, on the other hand, was in the middle of the pack for both arm strength and release time, but he’s the quickest decision maker. In fact, he took less time, on average, to pull the trigger on throws than any other quarterback I’ve tracked. Justin Herbert was generally around average for each metric. I see Joe Burrow having Joe Montana-like talent (not necessarily the same career), Tua is a combination of Drew Brees’s 40-year-old arm and Mike Vick’s 37-year-old legs, Love reminds me of a mini Josh Allen, and Herbert has a striking resemblance to Derek Anderson. And if the NFL Combine wants to hit me up for ideas on how to improve their process, my DMs are wide open.

Tim Dix is a writer based in Los Angeles, where he mostly produces television about sports or science or both. He can be contacted at timdixtv@gmail.com.

 

[bobad]

Yeah, being honest, this seems a little enthusiastic. But since arm strength isn't the sole determinant of NFL QB success (hello Kyle Boller and others), it may not matter that much.

Maybe a little.

The real determinant is getting the ball there reliably and in stride. Accuracy trumps strength 90% of the time I guess. Jake is smart enough not to try any Josh Allen throws.

What hasn't been talked about enough is Jake's ability to scramble, find a receiver flashing open, and release the ball accurately all n a split second. He did that at least twice in the UCLA game. That's a great talent to have.

 

[madsaint1967]

Not of fan of Haener’s arm strength. Looks weaker than peak Brees.

Can't teach anticipation, which is where Brees killed it! I remember Aaron Brooks had a cannon of an arm but couldn't throw with anticipation at all. Time will tell.