Poll Does anyone feel bad for Sean Payton?? (1 Viewer)

[football]

His best work is as an offensive coordinator. He’s got stones and demeanor to be a head coach but he was consistent terrible with the defense and special teams and personnel management.

Offense is what he does.

Ok...then still have Allen running the defense.

 

[OCSaints]

Love the guy for what he did to the franchise and brought us top exposure in the league for over a decade with that lethal offense. But now I don't really care what he's doing, didn't care to read all the replies here and I skipped it after the 2nd page. Though I care just a teeny bit to reply back on this thread.

 

[El Caliente]

If you believe he was "burnt out," that's your opinion. I believe he wanted an upgrade at QB and was frustrated he couldn't find it on his own. He already got something most coaches don't get. A year off in 2012 without losing his job. I don't believe he would've been "burnt out" if we had Mahommes at QB.

My bad, I forgot about the 2nd round pick. Yeah, I hope they go 0-17.

But after this year, best of luck to him. I wish him well.

 

[Saintaholik]

My friend lives in Denver die hard broncos fan. He saying they aren't SP fans so far. I have to admit, deep down inside i could care less. I know i should feel grateful for all he's done for the city but how complicated he ran the offense, causing Mike Thomas to get his ankle hurt while we were up, and how he just left shorty after drew's departure..... He got the team he wanted and the QB he wanted. Him losing two close games doesn't both me at all much less talking trash about the previous head coach.

Nope... not in the slightest

I love Sean, he's a legend and he will always be a huge part of this city, but he kind of turned his back on us.

Stuff got tough and he ran.

I will always appreciate what he did for the city/state after hurricane Katrina. I will also always respect him as well.

He's the best coach in franchise history, and a Hall of Famer.

I'm sure he'll figure it out, but in the meantime. He made is bed, he now has to lay in it

 

[ravenblade23x]

I don't feel sorry for him. Look he gave up on the team. Things where going to be hard after Drew left and he quit. So yeah, I lost a little bit of respect for him.

Guys like Belichik and Tomlin stuck with there teams after there SB winning QB's left and I just respect the hell out of that.

Still grateful for what he did for the city/team and always will be.

 

[SuperSaint]

Not feeling sorry for SP in the slightest, this is all happening because of his actions.

Just like Belichick is now finding out that Tom Brady might have been pretty good, SP is finding out what life as a head coach without a first-ballot HOF QB is like...

 

[Joodas Avila]

I dont really care, but i voted yes anyways. Watching the Denver games, it further adds validity to the notion that “it’s not the coach, IT’S THE QB” that dictates wins & losses in this league. Time & time again, Russ simply failed to see the open guy. Or he’d panic & throw a yolo balls to his receivers.

Straight up, Russell Wilson is tattered husk of his of his formal self. He was never a high IQ QB. Wilson was just a random big play improviser. I mean, this is pretty much what killed him in SEA. He’s never been a who functions well within a structured O. That’s not exactly on Sean Payton.

 

[domedog316]

I dont really care, but i voted yes anyways. Watching the Denver games, it further adds validity to the notion that “it’s not the coach, IT’S THE QB” that dictates wins & losses in this league. Time & time again, Russ simply failed to see the open guy. Or he’d panic & throw a yolo balls to his receivers.

Straight up, Russell Wilson is tattered husk of his of his formal self. He was never a high IQ QB. Wilson was just a random big play improviser. I mean, this is pretty much what killed him in SEA. He’s never been a who functions well within a structured O. That’s not exactly on Sean Payton.

Right, but if Payton is the guru that I thought he was, he should have seen that in Wilson and possibly not taken the job. Of course, he could just be playing out the string so they can jettison Russ and draft or sign a replacement.... In my opinion Sean's hubris led him to believe he could fix Russ.....and maybe he can't. A system coach like CSP who is supposed to be the most clever guy in the room should have seen the possible landmine in a QB who "cooks" up fly by the seat of your pants offense and considered it. He didn't. Drew was the pinnacle of a guy who ran an offense the way it should be ran, there will never be another Drew.

Denver is locked in on Sean and I don't think he could go 0-16 and have it cost him his job. I love Payton and there's no doubt he helped change the fortunes of the Saints. He and Drew (and many others) breathed life back into Saints football when more than a few folks wrote them off.

Again, I love Sean but I am excited for a future without him. Allen may not be the long term answer, but now that he's had an off-season to work on that D and get a pretty good quarterback for the offense he's not quite looking like who we thought he was either. Dennis Allen is now a little more loose and can operate with a bit more edge and it will get better if they continue to win. If the offense just starts clicking a little bit - this D could take us to a Superbowl. Under Allen. Jeez....talk about Pigs flying...

 

[saintsmarchin]

Denver Broncos are already up 3+ more penalties per game in 2023
New Orleans Saints are down by .8

 

[St. Pike]

I didn't read this whole thread, but I do not wish ill will on anyone.

It is clear to all of us that Payton and Brees were a good combo here. He came into a good nucleus of a team. He doesn't have that in Denver. From the highlights, the play calls remind me of SP's early days with us. Wilson is not Brees and Denver's defense is nowhere near as opportunistic as our defense was. SP's play calls are innovative, but now and then they just fail. You can't make everyone happy, or less innovative and you lack creativity.


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[Saintscuffy]

Pick 33 would be sweet. That'd set them up for Caleb though, which whatever I'd rather him be in the AFC.

Im ok with that.

 

[TomThomster7]

Yes .
Surprised by the high percentage of No's.
I read most of the posts. A pretty lot of bitter feelings. My thought is centered around what euphoria Payton brought to New Orleans and every Saints fan. And for how long our team was relevant. Under Payton.
Yes -- we had down years with him. But it wasn't always his fault. And never ONLY his fault. He had his weaknesses as head coach. And we let him have it here on
saintsreport.com when he showed those weaknesses. Even called for his head.
But the man repeatedly turned the Saints around. And except for being robbed by refs/Goodell, the Saints and Payton should have two more Super Bowl trophies -- at least.
Did Payton do us wrong by the way he left the city? Perhaps. But the coach is human.
I don't hold anything against him. For what he brought to New Orleans and the fans, and because he is an upstanding man, I want the best for him. I will never forget our glory days that lasted years. We owe Payton for that period. And yes -- I care if he has a rough time in Denver. I want to see him succeed there.

 

[Madmarsha]

I don't hate him but I don't feel bad for him. For someone who doesn't like to say much, he sure says a lot of dumbheaded, billboard material things and seems to be trying really hard to prove something to somebody. And doing a really bad job at it, by the way.

 

[AmerVet]

Do I feel bad, for that guy, after how he jumped ship after all the control we gave him?