Poll Does anyone feel bad for Sean Payton?? (3 Viewers)

[BikesBurgersBeer]

Denver is dropping off my radar more each week at the moment. Not saying that couldn't change but right now

 

[jdl1201]

In 2019 when the rumor was, he is going to Dallas, and he signed the extension and gave an interview about how much he loved the City and Franchise. (BS) Then from the moment he retired, he spoke publicly about returning to coaching, even citing teams that were in (arguably) good situations as HIS top choices, such as the Chargers and Cowboys. I don’t understand why everyone has just been cool with this, seems extremely scummy. If he was burnt out, I think it would have been more than a year to recharge his batteries. As fans we do not owe him anything for doing his job. He was under contract he owed the team. Unlike players Coaches contracts are fully guaranteed, unless you quit. So yes, I feel like a dumped lover. I hope he goes 0-17 not just for the draft pick but I'm PO'ed
I do believe his stint in Denver will tarnish his legacy.

 

[St. Pike]

In 2019 when the rumor was, he is going to Dallas, and he signed the extension and gave an interview about how much he loved the City and Franchise. (BS) Then from the moment he retired, he spoke publicly about returning to coaching, even citing teams that were in (arguably) good situations as HIS top choices, such as the Chargers and Cowboys. I don’t understand why everyone has just been cool with this, seems extremely scummy. If he was burnt out, I think it would have been more than a year to recharge his batteries. As fans we do not owe him anything for doing his job. He was under contract he owed the team. Unlike players Coaches contracts are fully guaranteed, unless you quit. So yes, I feel like a dumped lover. I hope he goes 0-17 not just for the draft pick but I'm PO'ed
I do believe his stint in Denver will tarnish his legacy.

I thought he hinted that he wanted to do TV? (as well???)

 

[livefromDC]

Yes .
Surprised by the high percentage of No's.
I read most of the posts. A pretty lot of bitter feelings. My thought is centered around what euphoria Payton brought to New Orleans and every Saints fan. And for how long our team was relevant. Under Payton.
Yes -- we had down years with him. But it wasn't always his fault. And never ONLY his fault. He had his weaknesses as head coach. And we let him have it here on
saintsreport.com when he showed those weaknesses. Even called for his head.
But the man repeatedly turned the Saints around. And except for being robbed by refs/Goodell, the Saints and Payton should have two more Super Bowl trophies -- at least.
Did Payton do us wrong by the way he left the city? Perhaps. But the coach is human.
I don't hold anything against him. For what he brought to New Orleans and the fans, and because he is an upstanding man, I want the best for him. I will never forget our glory days that lasted years. We owe Payton for that period. And yes -- I care if he has a rough time in Denver. I want to see him succeed there.

After they go 0-17. Draft picks before well wishes. I'm a Saints fan first. It's not bitter, it's business. You hoping he does well is the same to me as rooting for the Falcons because, by golly Onyemata and Ellis were swell guys when they were here. You can completely miss me with that. I have nothing against Payton but I want that pick to be so high it's knocking on the door of the first round!

I'm not bitter. I'm a Saints fan. I want what helps the Saints above all else. Payton is a grown man and definitely feels the same about his new team. He'd 100% want the same if the shoe was on the other foot. The only thing odd here is people hoping he does well when it directly affects the Saints. You want to fanboy for Denver, fine, hit I-10 west then turn up somewhere else.

 

[Saintman2884]

I mean, in the grand scheme of things, he’s a guy having a hard time on his new job. There are opportunities for improvement and it’s still early in the season.
And, maybe he wanted a rebuild project. I think he walked into this one with his eyes open, understanding that the Broncos were not going to be an immediate contender. Additionally, he took a job in the same division where two other starting QBs are light years better than his.

And he has a former Super Bowl-winning Pro-Bowl QB who best years were in Seattle and sort of came out of his prime years about 3-4 years ago and can be categorized as maybe decent-to-good in his best games. Payton's Broncos, even if they do improve substantially (and they likely will) over the next year or so, well simultaneously, I don't see either Kansas City or L.A. Chargers regressing either because both of their MVP-CALIBER QB's will continue to evolve and if anything, become more deadlier, potent offensive weapons. He's in a much, much tougher, competitive division than what he usually had to deal with and contend against as it related to other NFC South teams throughout most of his Saints HC tenure. Aside from playing against a rapidly declining, past his prime Tom Brady Bucs, the closest thing to a HOF QB Payton had to contend with, constantly devise schemes against for over a decade-long period was Falcons' Matt Ryan in the NFC South

 

[Paper Bags]

It's his actions that will ether prove he is a great coach, or Drew really was the brains behind the success. I mean, Drew's years with the Saints weren't just Drew, we had some other great players, but the play calling and atmosphere was a lot Drew, and we assumed Sean. Time will tell.

 

[Plow]

Absolutely no sorrow here. Payton's heart was no longer with the New Orleans Saints, so his departure was a good thing.

Say what we will about Dennis Allen, but he's 100% committed to taking the Saints back to the playoffs and beyond.

 

[Turfie]

I have been very surprised by most of Payton’s actions since about week 8 last year. He openly expressed interest in being the Chargers coach and slammed that head coach. He hired a defensive coordinator after publicly admitting that he wasn’t his top choice. He publicly said that Hackett and the rest of the 2022 Broncos staff did the worst coaching in NFL history. He publicly slammed the NFL and referees right before the season started. After last weeks game he publicly made a snide comment about Russ.

I feel bad for Payton. Not for the Broncos struggles…but I think Payton is losing it.

 

[BBarnes]

No I do not at all.

I actually find it funny that he’s losing. Not because he left us, but because he continuously bashes the previous coaching staff and team from last year just creating excuses in advance when it doesn’t work out.

Then he says things like, “we burned timeouts in the first half and couldn’t get plays in on time, that’s things im not use to” when in fact
It’s actually exactly what he’s use to.

Idk just listening to his pressers it’s like he’s trying to convince the Denver audience that he’s great with his words and that it’s the dumpster fire around him that’s bad.

Hopefully he turns it around, but it won’t be this year.

 

[td2w]

I know they will turn it around at some point, but I wonder what this place would look like if we had just traded 3 first round picks + 2 second round picks + change for a QB and coach who aren't delivering at the moment

 

[SaintsMan209]

either Sean Payton is a mastermind who will turn around the broncos or his ego got the best of him. Right now, I think his ego got the best of him. Help me understand why you would leave Gayle, and Mickey when they supported you through so many crazy shenanigans.

Broncos country will implode if they have 1 more bad season after this one. They will give him a pass for year 1.

 

[HouseCall]

Not at all. He went to a team that wasn’t very good last year with a veteran QB that had unexpectedly become a bit of a project.

I think he’ll be fine - but I wouldn’t expect the Broncos to be a major factor in a loaded AFC anytime soon.

As for the poor officiating - I’m just glad it’s not us anymore.

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

Broncos Ownership?

 

[PHSaint518]

For those mentioning pick 33 let’s hope that’s not how it goes. Loomis allegedly turned down Denver’s 2024 1st for the pick that ended with Bresee. As good as Bresee is I’d rather not have missed out on Caleb Williams. Broncos should win 5 games at worst anyway, I’d imagine.