Poll Does anyone feel bad for Sean Payton?? (1 Viewer)

[jahsoul357]

Good point, but is he going to be able to learn and adjust his coaching style to the construction and ability of the team, or is the team going to have to rebuild to meet his coaching style? He has only lost by a few points each game so it's not like he is incompetent. I think in time he will have success, but maybe not at the level he had with Drew. Like I said, time will tell.

I think offensively, we will see the team get a lot better as time pass. The problem is, trash defense is rearing its head. Sunday's game did highlight what EB is doing in Washington....(for those of us that wanted him last season)

 

[Nonreg]

This is like feeling bad that your ex-girlfriend is getting plowed by your best friend. Should we feel sorry? No

Payton was immortalized in NOLA, bringing us success and our own Superbowl. I understand he wasnt going to be here forever, but the way he left was 100% wrong.

1 year off and he was looking for opportunities 6 months in. This reaks of something we have no idea about. Maybe it was the Goodell thing, or maybe Seans ego made he think he could go somewhere else and reproduce the same success.

Its still very early and we all know he can turn things around. I am enjoying his failure honestly and hope he gets fired after a year or two.

 

[jahsoul357]

This is like feeling bad that your ex-girlfriend is getting plowed by your best friend. Should we feel sorry? No

Payton was immortalized in NOLA, bringing us success and our own Superbowl. I understand he wasnt going to be here forever, but the way he left was 100% wrong.

1 year off and he was looking for opportunities 6 months in. This reaks of something we have no idea about. Maybe it was the Goodell thing, or maybe Seans ego made he think he could go somewhere else and reproduce the same success.

Its still very early and we all know he can turn things around. I am enjoying his failure honestly and hope he gets fired after a year or two.

Part of me wondering if there was any in house conflict. It just seem so abrupt.

 

[livefromDC]

I know they will turn it around at some point, but I wonder what this place would look like if we had just traded 3 first round picks + 2 second round picks + change for a QB and coach who aren't delivering at the moment

Unfortunately, I think he's going to turn it around by October. For whatever reason, Payton's teams usually start the season slow more often than not. I'm actually surprised no one has pointed this out yet. The Broncos will start winning some games, but I'm hoping they still lose a lot more than they win. Again, It has nothing to do with Payton and everything to do with their 2nd round pick.

 

[26ISTHEMAN]

Don't care. He won us a championship but his arrogance and hubris kept us from winning 1 or 2 more.

 

[sfidc3]

Not at all....no reason to.....he needs a year or 2 to rebuild, Denver's roster is not very strong.....check back in a few years....

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

This is like feeling bad that your ex-girlfriend is getting plowed by your best friend. Should we feel sorry? No

Payton was immortalized in NOLA, bringing us success and our own Superbowl. I understand he wasnt going to be here forever, but the way he left was 100% wrong.

1 year off and he was looking for opportunities 6 months in. This reaks of something we have no idea about. Maybe it was the Goodell thing, or maybe Seans ego made he think he could go somewhere else and reproduce the same success.

Its still very early and we all know he can turn things around. I am enjoying his failure honestly and hope he gets fired after a year or two.

And throw him talking smack about the former Broncos coach. Payton is so self absorbed that he lost is self-awareness.

 

[Rexman100]

Yes .
Surprised by the high percentage of No's.
I read most of the posts. A pretty lot of bitter feelings. My thought is centered around what euphoria Payton brought to New Orleans and every Saints fan. And for how long our team was relevant. Under Payton.
Yes -- we had down years with him. But it wasn't always his fault. And never ONLY his fault. He had his weaknesses as head coach. And we let him have it here on
saintsreport.com when he showed those weaknesses. Even called for his head.
But the man repeatedly turned the Saints around. And except for being robbed by refs/Goodell, the Saints and Payton should have two more Super Bowl trophies -- at least.
Did Payton do us wrong by the way he left the city? Perhaps. But the coach is human.
I don't hold anything against him. For what he brought to New Orleans and the fans, and because he is an upstanding man, I want the best for him. I will never forget our glory days that lasted years. We owe Payton for that period. And yes -- I care if he has a rough time in Denver. I want to see him succeed there.

This is where I wonder how this came to be the narrative and if there was actually more to it. He was building the offense around Winston and as that was being installed, we were 4-2, Winston was one of the most efficient QBs in the league, and we were staring at 1st place in the NFC South (and we had it for a week). I truly feel that with how the season played out with all of those injuries and having to game plan around that, he was legitimately burnt out. But none of us really know what happened. But anyone with eyes knew that working with Russell Wilson wasn't going to be a walk in the park based on his style of play.

He wasn’t close to burnt out. He protected his stock price and literally forced his way out to do so. He wanted that next contract. He got it, now it doesn’t matter what happens really. I’m now leaning it was about money and not his legacy. Because it makes more sense this way. Had he sat out for three years, then it was burnout. He knew he couldn’t build in Nola. He was headed for 7-9 x 3. At least with Denver he’ll be 7-9 x 3. But a ton richer in the process. If he selectively “burns out“ in NOLA after 3 x 7-9. His street value is a one year prove it deal. He chose correctly so it is what it is.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

NGL...In 2023, I'd rather live in Denver, CO than New Orleans. I curse this city/state daily.

That aside, he had a contractual obligation and left us hanging with a deconstructed roster of his own making...

"He didn't like the QB room" - he created the QB room, that's his mess to clean up

I get why though...he felt like he was getting worked over and there wasn't going to ever catch a break from getting screwed in NOLA....so he looked for a more influential ownership group to give some top cover...don't think it's going to work. He's being sent a message that no matter where he goes...he'll never be safe

And throw him talking smack about the former Broncos coach. Payton is so self absorbed that he lost is self-awareness.

I wouldn't call it lost self awareness...more a lack of impulse control...and stubborness

 

[RebSaint]

The conversation is Sean Payton left because of the QB and not the overall situation, as was alluded to in the post. This looks like another episode of you not reading the thread...

I read enough to know that you bring this issue up in multiple threads regardless of the topic. Yet another episode of making a dubious assumption of me not reading things.

Stop.

 

[UFCSaint]

I loved Payton and draft pick notwithstanding....I hope he does well in Denver. But as others have stated...he chose to leave and he chose to walk into a situation that is not currently built for success. Maybe he wanted the challenge and if so...he def got one (he at least does appear to be getting Wilson back on track though.) Also, he got paid well so do I feel sorry for him? Not at all.

 

[jahsoul357]

I read enough to know that you bring this issue up in multiple threads regardless of the topic. Yet another episode of making a dubious assumption of me not reading things.

Stop.

Reading if fundamental. Don't get mad at me you didn't take 5 seconds to actually read what I replying before hopping in making yourself look crazy...

 

[RebSaint]

Reading if fundamental. Don't get mad at me you didn't take 5 seconds to actually read what I replying before hopping in making yourself look crazy...

Yes, reading is fundamental. My reading skills and comprehension are just fine.

I'm not mad at you. I'm just making an observation--from reading your posts in multiple threads, not just this one.

Crazy? Like bringing up the Winston/Dalton crap in every thread? It's exhausting and it ends up derailing a lot of quality threads.

 

[jahsoul357]

Yes, reading is fundamental. My reading skills and comprehension are just fine.

I'm not mad at you. I'm just making an observation--from reading your posts in multiple threads, not just this one.

Crazy? Like bringing up the Winston/Dalton crap in every thread? It's exhausting and it ends up derailing a lot of quality threads.

I'm embracing these emotions clowns like badges of honor...haha.

And you must be something because this was my very first post in this thread.

We went 9-8 with 4 QBs, UDFA and practice squad dudes at WR, running back room of Kamara and others, and a 13 O-lineman rotation due to injuries. I don't know why anyone is questioning his coaching.

@bigdaddysaints said this

its questioned because it seems like he didn't want put in the effort, when it got hard to do, he bailed and went to a team that already had a proven SB winning QB. If Winston worked out, he'd still be in NO.

to which I replied.

This is where I wonder how this came to be the narrative and if there was actually more to it. He was building the offense around Winston and as that was being installed, we were 4-2, Winston was one of the most efficient QBs in the league, and we were staring at 1st place in the NFC South (and we had it for a week). I truly feel that with how the season played out with all of those injuries and having to game plan around that, he was legitimately burnt out. But none of us really know what happened. But anyone with eyes knew that working with Russell Wilson wasn't going to be a walk in the park based on his style of play.

See this is why reading is fundamental. If you actually followed the thread instead of seeing Winston and getting automatically triggered, 2 and 2 would have came together. Instead, you are doing this...lol. Now that we are tracking, back to our regularly scheduled topic.

I wouldn't call it lost self awareness...more a lack of impulse control...and stubborness

My thoughts exactly. My man told Russ to stop kissing babies. lol

 

[jahsoul357]

Wow....while I don't feel bad for Sean Payton, seeing Eberflus get ran over by the bus he just got tossed under made me double take.



Waiting to hear the additional detail on this one..lol