Poll Does anyone feel bad for Sean Payton?? (1 Viewer)

Do you feel bad for Sean Payton?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 6.5%

  • No

    Votes: 311 72.5%

  • Don't Care

    Votes: 90 21.0%
  • Total voters
    429
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It shouldn’t be surprising.
It’s rare a Super Bowl coach succeeds on their second team.
 
Just thinking of the caliber of guard or TE or LB the Saints can get in the front half of the 2nd round makes me giddy. It is truly an ideal situation: I can hope for a much needed high draft pick and not have the dread of the Saints losing games to get it.
 
BayouSAINTJoe said:
NGL...In 2023, I'd rather live in Denver, CO than New Orleans. I curse this city/state daily.

That aside, he had a contractual obligation and left us hanging with a deconstructed roster of his own making...

"He didn't like the QB room" - he created the QB room, that's his mess to clean up

I get why though...he felt like he was getting worked over and there wasn't going to ever catch a break from getting screwed in NOLA....so he looked for a more influential ownership group to give some top cover...don't think it's going to work. He's being sent a message that no matter where he goes...he'll never be safe

I wouldn't call it lost self awareness...more a lack of impulse control...and stubborness
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While I won't say you are wrong, I will say that it may be as likely a mutual parting.

  • He wasn't exactly making friends with the NFL offices.
  • His record wasn't trending right in many ways from acquisition to injury to QB dev.
  • That whole Miami thing which IDK how to factor properly if at all.
  • The shady referee work against a too small mkt team post Katrina sympathy

If they played nice, he can say it was burn out and they can salvage a draft pick rather than firing the first and only Superbowl winning coach in team history.

So both sides had some decent motivation to be professional about parting.
 
Tapxe said:
While I won't say you are wrong, I will say that it may be as likely a mutual parting.

  • He wasn't exactly making friends with the NFL offices.
  • His record wasn't trending right in many ways from acquisition to injury to QB dev.
  • That whole Miami thing which IDK how to factor properly if at all.
  • The shady referee work against a too small mkt team post Katrina sympathy

If they played nice, he can say it was burn out and they can salvage a draft pick rather than firing the first and only Superbowl winning coach in team history.

So both sides had some decent motivation to be professional about parting.
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I don’t agree with the entire “League vs small market” angle for several reasons.
1. The League kept putting the Saints in prime time and game of the week slots.
2. The ratings did not dip or significantly decrease when the Saints were in those slots.
3. Contrary to popular belief, the Saints have been one of the most marketable teams of the 00s/10s.
4. At this point, it’s been almost two decades since the franchise rebooted. They are one of the established teams in the League. A good 80% of the players right now don’t know a time when the Saints weren’t competitive.
5. The only ones that still bring up the Baghead Daya are a few 60-70 year old reporters like Cowherd who won’t change their mind.
 
Given the conspiracy theories about how much the NFL hates CSP. What if the NFL lets us win this year as a way to twist the knife in Sean? All make believe of course.
 
Feel bad for him? Nah. This is what he wanted to do. That team won 5 games last season and was dead last in the division. It's going to take more than a coach and 2 games to fix that team. But I don't have any ill will for him or the Broncos either. Best of luck to him.
 
Optimistic Ozzy said:
I don't think it's too far fetched to happen.
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Of course you don't, it's been "happening" since 2010.....I mean, common sense dictates that it is extremely unlikely that CSP would work for a JJ type owner....
 
sfidc3 said:
Of course you don't, it's been "happening" since 2010.....I mean, common sense dictates that it is extremely unlikely that CSP would work for a JJ type owner....
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JJ isn't getting any younger.
 
abnrgr said:
Given the conspiracy theories about how much the NFL hates CSP. What if the NFL lets us win this year as a way to twist the knife in Sean? All make believe of course.
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Sean would need to come back and say, "You know, I kept thinking what I needed to do relative to getting the Saints back the Superbowl. It dawned on me that either I or Roger Goodell needed to be taken out of the equation. The way corruption in the NFL works is if you expose something they don't want exposed, you pay. I didn't want the Saints to have to keep paying the price. It is what it is. Congratulations Saints. As for the Broncos, we were the most penalized team in the year this year, and relative to our play, I think you can see that something is off. I am sure there is a league office napkin somewhere that explains it all."
 
I absolutely do not feel sorry for Payton. I think he got a little too confident that he could fix the Broncos. Maybe he will, but it's usually better to underpromise and over deliver.
 
Rexman100 said:
He wasn’t close to burnt out. He protected his stock price and literally forced his way out to do so. He wanted that next contract. He got it, now it doesn’t matter what happens really. I’m now leaning it was about money and not his legacy. Because it makes more sense this way. Had he sat out for three years, then it was burnout. He knew he couldn’t build in Nola. He was headed for 7-9 x 3. At least with Denver he’ll be 7-9 x 3. But a ton richer in the process. If he selectively “burns out“ in NOLA after 3 x 7-9. His street value is a one year prove it deal. He chose correctly so it is what it is.
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🤔 Ya got me thinking. Sounds logical.
 

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