Are we going to talk about that thing that no one's talking about (3 Viewers)

[Nisey55]

My unpolitical take on this.
Our country is in a sad state of affairs. Once again, for the umpteenth time a man was killed for standing in the wrong place at the wrong time all in the name of hate.
Why, why does hate and violence take precedence over peace and at least an attempt at unity?
I am struggling to quit smoking and I swear I could be more successful if we could learn how to stop all the f×××××g hate.
I can't see to type anymore so I will say peace to all of you and back out now.

 

[Madmarsha]

i'll truly miss the little sex therapist.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

I remember the old days and though I appreciated hearing opposing opinions that I respect such as Guido and Oye, it was just way too turbulent. It was the right decision to limit politics

I guess i will be the one to admit that I don’t understand the difference between having a tab at the top of the page im typing on right now, that takes you to a different website.. versus having a tab at the top of the page im typing on right now, that takes you to a different forum/board on SaintsReport…. If there is going to be civil discussion , it would happen in both versions, and if there’s going to be hatred and vitriol, it would happen in both versions .

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I guess i will be the one to admit that I don’t understand the difference between having a tab at the top of the page im typing on right now, that takes you to a different website.. versus having a tab at the top of the page im typing on right now, that takes you to a different forum/board on SaintsReport…. If there is going to be civil discussion , it would happen in both versions, and if there’s going to be hatred and vitriol, it would happen in both versions .

Back in the day creole families had a garçonnière - it was a separate living quarter for post adolescent males in the family to move into - it was separated from the main house but still on the property
It was fine to get the adolescent boys away from the rest of the family for reasons we all could easily figure out

It’s like that

 

[Madmarsha]

I guess i will be the one to admit that I don’t understand the difference between having a tab at the top of the page im typing on right now, that takes you to a different website.. versus having a tab at the top of the page im typing on right now, that takes you to a different forum/board on SaintsReport…. If there is going to be civil discussion , it would happen in both versions, and if there’s going to be hatred and vitriol, it would happen in both versions .

I always thought it was kinda weird, too, but I was just so glad that EE didn't become an echo chamber.

 

[Madmarsha]

It was fine to get the adolescent boys away from the rest of the family for reasons we all could easily figure out

 

[Zardnok]

My unpolitical take on this.
Our country is in a sad state of affairs. Once again, for the umpteenth time a man was killed for standing in the wrong place at the wrong time all in the name of hate.
Why, why does hate and violence take precedence over peace and at least an attempt at unity?
I am struggling to quit smoking and I swear I could be more successful if we could learn how to stop all the f×××××g hate.
I can't see to type anymore so I will say peace to all of you and back out now.

Keeping with the unpolitical take, why does hate and violence take precedence over Peace and unity? Money, Power, and Social Media.

Social Media sells ads to generate their revenue. A standard ad on a normal Facebook page generates approximately 1.7 cents/ad, but an ad for an "Engaged User" jumps up to 4 cents per ad. How do you change someone from a normal person to an "Engaged User"? You make them angry and show them things that cause them to "click through" to see additional content. This is why FB content is so "click-baity", they are trying to generate an additional 2.3 cents per user. Political Parties are capitalizing on this and have realized if the peons are too busy fighting each other, they can remain in power, so long as they keep the people angry and give them a target to focus their anger.

So why does hate take precedence? Because Facebook or whatever other Social Media wanted to make an additional 2.3 cents/ad. Why is Political Violence more common in our society? Because both sides are arguing that the other side is an existential threat to our Democracy and both sides feel as if they have no other recourse. Voting doesn't work, the Courts don't work, even a common agreed upon reality is no longer possible. Because both sides are too busy making their base angry to keep them engaged, the base lashes out violently against the other side when we are truly all one America. We have just been bastageized by politicians doing whatever it takes to maintain power and keep us all "Engaged" for that extra 2.3 cents per ad. We all love our Country, we are just being told the diversity which is our greatest strength is actually destroying us.

Will this country survive? I don't know, but I have serious doubts. I miss the days when Politicians would duel each other, there were a lot fewer actual citizens being killed.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Keeping with the unpolitical take, why does hate and violence take precedence over Peace and unity? Money, Power, and Social Media.

Social Media sells ads to generate their revenue. A standard ad on a normal Facebook page generates approximately 1.7 cents/ad, but an ad for an "Engaged User" jumps up to 4 cents per ad. How do you change someone from a normal person to an "Engaged User"? You make them angry and show them things that cause them to "click through" to see additional content. This is why FB content is so "click-baity", they are trying to generate an additional 2.3 cents per user. Political Parties are capitalizing on this and have realized if the peons are too busy fighting each other, they can remain in power, so long as they keep the people angry and give them a target to focus their anger.

So why does hate take precedence? Because Facebook or whatever other Social Media wanted to make an additional 2.3 cents/ad. Why is Political Violence more common in our society? Because both sides are arguing that the other side is an existential threat to our Democracy and both sides feel as if they have no other recourse. Voting doesn't work, the Courts don't work, even a common agreed upon reality is no longer possible. Because both sides are too busy making their base angry to keep them engaged, the base lashes out violently against the other side when we are truly all one America. We have just been bastageized by politicians doing whatever it takes to maintain power and keep us all "Engaged" for that extra 2.3 cents per ad. We all love our Country, we are just being told the diversity which is our greatest strength is actually destroying us.

Will this country survive? I don't know, but I have serious doubts. I miss the days when Politicians would duel each other, there were a lot fewer actual citizens being killed.

To get to your specific point, the answer is media literacy taught early and often- I’m really not sure anything else will work

To the broader point - while love (needed to form social bonds) is more important for the species to survive; fear (the primary ingredient in hate) is hardwired to protect the individual.
It’s also a much simpler, lizard brain response vs the more complex firings of the frontal lobe

 

[Madmarsha]

Will this country survive? I don't know, but I have serious doubts.

Hearing a lot more on both sides having these same thoughts. When we're all scared, that's scary.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I actually woke up this morning thinking we HAVE to be nearing some saturation point - the human body is not built to handle so much stress so continuously- especially a stress that we (by and large) are manufacturing
Maybe there’s a chance we arrive at a collective ‘chill out’ phase

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Hearing a lot more on both sides having these same thoughts. When we're all scared, that's scary.

Do i think that the USA is a sinking ship ? Do i think that the USA is a crumbling empire ? Yes, i do… Do i want our American experiment, an idea that has lit the world for the last 250 yrs, to fail ?? NO, i do not…. I myself will be spending the rest of this year and into 2025 working in Asia, and tbh im kinda secretly thrilled to not be around for the absolute s***show i think this election is going to bring along with it (and in fact already has)…. But I have too many people , too many family members i love here, that i dont want to see them suffer if/when s*** starts to go sideways….. If we are being honest, i am kind of expecting the worst, but I genuinely hope that i am wrong .

 

[Madmarsha]

I actually woke up this morning thinking we HAVE to be nearing some saturation point - the human body is not built to handle so much stress so continuously- especially a stress that we (by and large) are manufacturing
Maybe there’s a chance we arrive at a collective ‘chill out’ phase

I keep hoping for that. I'm a Republican, but I'm not down for all the prepper and doomsday prophecies that proliferate on "my" side constantly preparing for "the end". I call myself Republican/conservative, but I hate that that boxes me in to, Oh, so YOU believe this and you believe that. No. I don't consult GOP talking points to decide how I personally feel about
a subject. Just as I'll ask YOU what YOU think about something, ask ME before you decide what I believe in.


I have unfriended only one book of face friend so far (it was actually a friend I knew from real life, too). Within five minutes, he remarked about Trump being a "bumbling idiot". Another friend there (that I don't know in real life, just from online) this morning posted about being tired of hearing about a busted earlobe. Now, I know I have made jokes; but when people are dead, I haven't called this just a "busted earlobe" incident.

 

[Nisey55]

Keeping with the unpolitical take, why does hate and violence take precedence over Peace and unity? Money, Power, and Social Media.

Social Media sells ads to generate their revenue. A standard ad on a normal Facebook page generates approximately 1.7 cents/ad, but an ad for an "Engaged User" jumps up to 4 cents per ad. How do you change someone from a normal person to an "Engaged User"? You make them angry and show them things that cause them to "click through" to see additional content. This is why FB content is so "click-baity", they are trying to generate an additional 2.3 cents per user. Political Parties are capitalizing on this and have realized if the peons are too busy fighting each other, they can remain in power, so long as they keep the people angry and give them a target to focus their anger.

So why does hate take precedence? Because Facebook or whatever other Social Media wanted to make an additional 2.3 cents/ad. Why is Political Violence more common in our society? Because both sides are arguing that the other side is an existential threat to our Democracy and both sides feel as if they have no other recourse. Voting doesn't work, the Courts don't work, even a common agreed upon reality is no longer possible. Because both sides are too busy making their base angry to keep them engaged, the base lashes out violently against the other side when we are truly all one America. We have just been bastageized by politicians doing whatever it takes to maintain power and keep us all "Engaged" for that extra 2.3 cents per ad. We all love our Country, we are just being told the diversity which is our greatest strength is actually destroying us.

Will this country survive? I don't know, but I have serious doubts. I miss the days when Politicians would duel each other, there were a lot fewer actual citizens being killed.

Yes, I know the "why" from the broader sense of social media/political division side. I want to know why we, as citizens of America are so weak minded and easily influenced by fools. We are throwing our own country in the garbage and pointing the finger at everyone but ourselves.
Is it gratifying to live our lives divided? Don't we all deep down crave unity and acceptance even if we have differing views? Are we so damn bored and shallow that the excitement of violence and embracing your side versus my side is all that matters?
Sick to my stomach.
Zardnok, none of this is directed at you, I was just thinking out loud and thank you for your thoughts.

 

[Nisey55]

I actually woke up this morning thinking we HAVE to be nearing some saturation point - the human body is not built to handle so much stress so continuously- especially a stress that we (by and large) are manufacturing
Maybe there’s a chance we arrive at a collective ‘chill out’ phase

Well said.