Breaking! Saints fired Dennis Allen (7 Viewers)

[Elvis]

I agree the roster is better than the results and I'm fine giving Rizzi a shot as interim. But I really do want to just move on to a fresh new head coach with a fresh new staff. I'm just not sure you can get rid of whatever led to the lack of attention to detail, lack of accountability, and lack of execution that went on with DA without getting an entirely new staff.

I completely agree. We need new faces in all of those offices, training rooms, etc. Maybe keep the equipment guys because they really run the show around most teams. Although even those guys mismatched some of the gold colors this year for a few players.

 

[silverbullet]

Why? Are you looking for a Dennis Allen clone for your next party?

Seriously? I don't want Vrabel but that's an idiotic comment. One dude went 54-45 in his career. The other is a bottom 3 all time worst HC in the history of the sport.

 

[B4YOU]

Bryce Young needs to be celebrated

Most points scored by Bryce since Dec 24, 2024. Just a terrible coaching job yesterday.

 

[St. Widge]

Seriously? I don't want Vrabel but that's an idiotic comment. One dude went 54-45 in his career. The other is a bottom 3 all time worst HC in the history of the sport.

No. Not seriously. It was a joke. And you having to even ask is an idiotic question.

Vrabel is an okay coach, but not what we need. He's another retread, conservative, defensive minded coach, and he had mediocre results. We need more than that.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

You don't really believe that Gayle or Loomis wrote those press releases from the Saints do you? I'm sure Greg Bensel wrote both statements so neither is intended to go against the party line.

If these were off the cuff comments at a press conference or interview maybe things would slip out. But not in an official press release from the team.

Nor would the Saints release a presser which showed dissent. I mean, honestly.

 

[sainthood]

Dennis Allen had coleslaw energy. Nobody requests it. It is tolerated to tag along with better options and under no circumstances should it be the prime menu option.
Allen was an above average defensive coordinator who never should have been a head coach in New Orleans or Oakland. The man can coach and draft defensive backs at an elite level. Other than that coleslaw.

Allen was the leftover after Payton wanted to move on to coach Tom Brady in Miami to cling to this mistaken notion of competitiveness under the codeword of continuity. There was an institutional denial about the strength of the roster in the elder years of Brees. The franchise felt this awkward departure of their Superbowl coach was the anomaly to a team to continue as if Payton were interchangeable. (i.e. the stewards of Carmichael and Allen could continue a contender.) Neither could and it was obvious to many outside the organization.

What should have occurred then, must occur now only with more interest on the salary cap credit card. This team needs a trash season to clean up its salary cap and target the right rebuild.
If Arch Manning can play, tanking for the 2026 draft makes a lot of sense. The roster needs are abundant and the age in Cam Jordan and and Tyrann Mathieu need to leave next year's roster. Demario Davis maybe has another year. Kamara and Hill are on borrowed time.
Our best two young wide receivers need new contracts and both have injury concerns. Olave's concussions may be a career threatening issue ala Tua.

Lattimore is our best defensive player but the Saints have Adebo in need of a contract and drafted Kool-Aid. The cap says let Lattimore go and stay younger.
This team needs a dominant pass rusher to replace Cam Jordan. Chase Young has been mid. The Saints need two starters at safety. We need a guard and wide receiver depth.

The problem is not just at quarterback and I pray the Saints do not draft a quarterback in 2025 round one given we cannot cut Carr without major cap penalties, the prospect of Manning in 2026 and what that would mean to this city, and the multitude of other roster needs.

 

[Super Hooper]

Loomis will be allowed to retire at the end of the season rather than be fired.

The sooner he leaves the better!

 

[silverbullet]

No. Not seriously. It was a joke. And you having to even ask is an idiotic question.

Vrabel is an okay coach, but not what we need. He another retread, conservative, defensive minded coach, and he had mediocre results. We need more than that.

Wanna talk about idiocy? Go back and look at my post history about this regime vs. yours.

 

[SweetT]

He turned down HC offers last offseason. I don’t see why he wouldn’t turn down this job.

Bc it’s a terrible secret that he wants the Bears job if available

 

[saints4eva]

Not surprised.

soft

Why would he stop to give a comment? It's understandable. Doesn't mean he's necessarily soft. I don't understand why people feel like they have to take parting shots.

The deed is done. It's over. Move on.

 

[Broad St. Saint]

Please no more inhouse hiring's.

Hopefully, the Rooney Rule (whatever one makes of it) and the scrutiny that comes with it will require the Saints to do a full, real search for a (non-interim) head coach in January. Rather than just interviewing Brian Flores and then promoting someone in house.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Dennis Allen had coleslaw energy. Nobody requests it. It is tolerated to tag along with better options and under no circumstances should it be the prime menu option.
Allen was an above average defensive coordinator who never should have been a head coach in New Orleans or Oakland. The man can coach and draft defensive backs at an elite level. Other than that coleslaw.

Allen was the leftover after Payton wanted to move on to coach Tom Brady in Miami to cling to this mistaken notion of competitiveness under the codeword of continuity. There was an institutional denial about the strength of the roster in the elder years of Brees. The franchise felt this awkward departure of their Superbowl coach was the anomaly to a team to continue as if Payton were interchangeable. (i.e. the stewards of Carmichael and Allen could continue a contender.) Neither could and it was obvious to many outside the organization.

What should have occurred then, must occur now only with more interest on the salary cap credit card. This team needs a trash season to clean up its salary cap and target the right rebuild.
If Arch Manning can play, tanking for the 2026 draft makes a lot of sense. The roster needs are abundant and the age in Cam Jordan and and Tyrann Mathieu need to leave next year's roster. Demario Davis maybe has another year. Kamara and Hill are on borrowed time.
Our best two young wide receivers need new contracts and both have injury concerns. Olave's concussions may be a career threatening issue ala Tua.

Lattimore is our best defensive player but the Saints have Adebo in need of a contract and drafted Kool-Aid. The cap says let Lattimore go and stay younger.
This team needs a dominant pass rusher to replace Cam Jordan. Chase Young has been mid. The Saints need two starters at safety. We need a guard and wide receiver depth.

The problem is not just at quarterback and I pray the Saints do not draft a quarterback in 2025 round one given we cannot cut Carr without major cap penalties, the prospect of Manning in 2026 and what that would mean to this city, and the multitude of other roster needs.

I see where you're going

 

[muddbug2]

I wonder how much of a pay increase an interim coach gets?

 

[fishing4food]

Why? Are you looking for a Dennis Allen clone for your next party?

Come on bro, you're trolling. No need for that type of response