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[kcirdor]

The “strategy” isn’t currently being used. How can someone say “See it doesn’t work” when we are in the process of intentionally not using it/maxing it out?

That's not how this works. When he made the announcement and we stuck to it... I planted the flag. I mean i can literally find the thread where i planted it. And we said see its finally here, what we have been warning about the entire time is here. And then we have people saying we can still squeeze more blood out of that rock. Or we could have went further. We couldnt, we saw the results. The fruits of everything we have been warning about blossom this season. When this is the season we should.have been clear of the mess after Payton left.

 

[kcirdor]

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

so you claim that I made this happen? I am the one that influenced the way we managed our cap all that time? Little ole me?

 

[St. Widge]

Either way, we are dependent on drafting really well and signing UDFAs because this team can't buy it's way out of a talent hole.

All teams are dependent on drafting well, signing UDFAs, and finding free agent bargains that turn out better than their contracts. No team can afford to build a team in free agency. You have to draft your stars and fill out your roster with draft picks, UDFAs, and low priced free agents.

Loomis needs to stop adding void years to older player contracts and converting all salaries to bonuses. And he has started that, but it's likely going to take until 2026 to get it cleared up so they have to restructure deals this year. But even once the cap is reset, the kep will be how well they draft, sign UDFAs, and sign low priced free agents.

 

[Stalwart385]

so you claim that I made this happen? I am the one that influenced the way we managed our cap all that time? Little ole me?

No, I misused that term. I was thinking in the sense that things are going poorly and you will use it to justify your own reason of why things are going poorly. It doesn't matter if you are wrong you will still just point and say "look things are going poorly, I was right".

 

[kcirdor]

No, I misused that term. I was thinking in the sense that things are going poorly and you will use it to justify your own reason of why things are going poorly. It doesn't matter if you are wrong you will still just point and say "look things are going poorly, I was right".

and two posts before that claimed that when "things were going good, you were wrong and complicit." but it aint true... what happened this year is exactly the sheet we have been warning about.

 

[Stalwart385]

and two posts before that claimed that when "things were going good, you were wrong and complicit." but it aint true... what happened this year is exactly the sheet we have been warning about.

Yeah we failed this year because we are invested in Mathieu, Kamara, Davis, Taysom and Jordan. That's whats wrong. Keep trying.

 

[St. Widge]

That's not how this works. When he made the announcement and we stuck to it... I planted the flag. I mean i can literally find the thread where i planted it. And we said see its finally here, what we have been warning about the entire time is here. And then we have people saying we can still squeeze more blood out of that rock. Or we could have went further. We couldnt, we saw the results. The fruits of everything we have been warning about blossom this season. When this is the season we should.have been clear of the mess after Payton left.

We all knew it was coming. That doesn't mean the 15 years we had as a championship contender wasn't worth it. They should have started to reset the cap in earnest 4 years ago. But we did start a year ago and while the reset contributed to our depth problem, the core of our depth problem is that we haven't drafted well enough. We have done okay with the top 100 picks (need more elite players but most of the picks are solid contributors outside of Foskey). The real issue is that they have barely hit on any picks in rounds 4 to 7 which is where Ireland is supposed to be in control.

So, yes, it should have happened sooner. But does it really matter if the misery started this year or 4 years ago? Loomis gambled on continuity and it didn't work. Hopefully we are now on the right path. If not, Loomis is the next to go.

 

[St. Widge]

so you claim that I made this happen? I am the one that influenced the way we managed our cap all that time? Little ole me?

Wait, you're not Gayle Benson?

 

[St. Geezy]

One never questions WHY we are the most injured team in the NFL every year and WHY our depth wouldnt even be on most NFL rosters. Its all traced back to Mickey Harold Loomis.

Our depth, is poor. Its poor because of the cap. Old extended players. Some 1st round busts that cost other draft capital. And I believe we have the fewest draft picks the last 5 years. If not we are close to the fewest. And break that down into mid round picks we've peed away to draft guys like Penning....you end up here.

Our starters across the board, are below average. Our depth is below average compared to other teams. Other teams have draft picks as depth. Look at our WRs and get back to me. Our best WR was a guy another team didnt want mid season.

How much money do you think other teams are spending on depth? Our number is in-line with everyone else’s.

It’s been poor drafting, personnel regrets, and a severe lack of player development that has our depth poor.

For instance, a year ago, our MLB depth was “poor,” but now our poor depth is a star somewhere else.

You can’t draft and develop the way we have been then turn around and blame a salary cap. Our depth structure, financially, is not much different than anyone else’s.

 

[kcirdor]

We all knew it was coming. That doesn't mean the 15 years we had as a championship contender wasn't worth it. They should have started to reset the cap in earnest 4 years ago. But we did start a year ago and while the reset contributed to our depth problem, the core of our depth problem is that we haven't drafted well enough. We have done okay with the top 100 picks (need more elite players but most of the picks are solid contributors outside of Foskey). The real issue is that they have barely hit on any picks in rounds 4 to 7 which is where Ireland is supposed to be in control.

So, yes, it should have happened sooner. But does it really matter if the misery started this year or 4 years ago? Loomis gambled on continuity and it didn't work. Hopefully we are now on the right path. If not, Loomis is the next to go.

i know this.. but we should have been on this train before Payton left the moment Brees retired, the gambles and the moves the Loomis made post Brees *WATSON*..... are more than enough to know its been time for him to go. The doubling down on Allen last off season should be enough to make it happen.

 

[kcirdor]

Wait, you're not Gayle Benson?

I wish.

 

[St. Widge]

How much money do you think other teams are spending on depth? Our number is in-line with everyone else’s.

It’s been poor drafting, personnel regrets, and a severe lack of player development that has our depth poor.

For instance, a year ago, our MLB depth was “poor,” but now our poor depth is a star somewhere else.

You can’t draft the way we have been then turn around and blame a salary cap. Our depth structure, financially, is not much different than anyone else’s.

I do find it interesting that everyone agreed that DA was a bad head coach and wanted him gone, but now that he is gone everyone is acting like it's our cap situation that caused this season to be bad.

I mean, if DA is a terrible HC, and he was, doesn't it stand to reason that the team is actually better than it's record and that with better coaching it would have a better record? And it seems to me that one of the ways that he was a bad head coach is that he chose to keep the wrong players and let the wrong players go. For instance, Tipton has not business being on our 53 man roster but DA should have pushed to keep Baun and maybe even Kaden Ellis. And maybe he should have pushed to sign one of them instead of Werner. Werner is a solid player, but he's not a play maker.

So, how much of this is our cap and how much of this is the result of having a bad HC that couldn't properly evaluate talent running the team? I think the majority of it is the bad HC that couldn't properly evaluate talent along with mediocre drafting. One of those things, having a bad HC, will hopefully change next year. I'm not so sure about the drafting.

 

[kcirdor]

Yeah we failed this year because we are invested in Mathieu, Kamara, Davis, Taysom and Jordan. That's whats wrong. Keep trying.

you see... a snow ball rolls down hill and gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.... can I make any more simple

 

[St. Widge]

i know this.. but we should have been on this train before Payton left the moment Brees retired, the gambles and the moves the Loomis made post Brees *WATSON*..... are more than enough to know its been time for him to go. The doubling down on Allen last off season should be enough to make it happen.

I don't disagree and I'm not saying Loomis should stay. But the reality is that he is going to stay so we might as well accept it. And, while I have issues with Loomis, I do think we can win with him as GM if he continues moves to reset the cap and hires a HC that he can trust to make the personnel and drafting decisions.

Honestly, Loomis is likely going to retire in a year or two anyway.