Saints Need an Offensive Weapon (2 Viewers)

[Pocket Hercules]

Your top 3 needs can easily be found outside of the first round. I will repeat ad nauseum, this is a deep draft at those positions. And if you're just looking at a bowl game and only seeing 3.5ypc, it's confirmation bias. You see that and say, "well, his OL is bad and he couldn't overcome it" while I see that and say, "3.5ypc against a defense that is selling out to stop you is stellar."

Day 1 impact starters cannot easily be found in later rounds in any draft. If we had the cap space available to find those players in FA, ok then, but we don't, and we won't for the next offseason or two. Until we shore up both lines, our skill players will continue to be neutralized no matter who we send out onto the field. That's not confirmation bias talking, it's watching the sport over the last four decades.

As good as Jeanty is, he won't be the best/most valuable player available in the top half of the first round.

 

[Pkessling]

BPA of course, but top needs are...

1) DT/DL
2) OG
3) S
4) WR

Jeanty is a good back worthy of a 1st round pick, but BSU's game vs. PSU is yet another confirmation that if your OL isn't winning, "offensive playmakers" are neutralized more often than not. Over 100 yards, but only 3.5 YPC.

Need at least 1 and maybe 2 LBs

 

[solarbear88]

Need at least 1 and maybe 2 LBs

Linebackers are a waste of a pick. Sign a couple. They're cheap.

 

[solarbear88]

this team is actually in the position of needing the best player available,because we need everything. We absolutely need a guard to start day 1. We need a RB, about 4 WRs on offense. On defense 2 DEs, couple DBs. Couple LBs.
So if we hit on 9/9 draft picks for starters we should look good for 2025

Yeah pretty much. Needs would be DT, DE, S/N, OG/C, WR, RB, TE. If we got one of each this off season it would fix a lot of issues.

Although we do have some young players hidden on the roster/practice squad that had positive draft grades like Holker, Ford and Boyd. Maybe an off season in the weight room will turn one or two into starters.

 

[duckjr78]

Your top 3 needs can easily be found outside of the first round. I will repeat ad nauseum, this is a deep draft at those positions. And if you're just looking at a bowl game and only seeing 3.5ypc, it's confirmation bias. You see that and say, "well, his OL is bad and he couldn't overcome it" while I see that and say, "3.5ypc against a defense that is selling out to stop you is stellar."

This, ad nauseum. It’s a game of allocation of resources. Premium resources should not be used on non-premium positions unless there is no other option.

 

[St4ever]

Because the OL is so good at run blocking.

No because after AK we don’t have anyone!

 

[Dallas_Saint73]

Saints need a defense.

Saints need a HC

 

[St. Geezy]

Because the OL is so good at run blocking.

To re-emphasize…we are not just drafting for the 2025 season. If the grade checks out, you make the move then worry about OL later.

 

[St4ever]

I don't think there are any "Jeanty haters" just people who see we have more holes to fill than RB which is a low priority position.

We all have to understand this will not be a one year turnaround! It’s going to take 2-3 years. We need playmakers as well as solid line. Taking a great player in the first is a must even if he’s not high on our list.

 

[St4ever]

BPA of course, but top needs are...

1) DT/DL
2) OG
3) S
4) WR

Jeanty is a good back worthy of a 1st round pick, but BSU's game vs. PSU is yet another confirmation that if your OL isn't winning, "offensive playmakers" are neutralized more often than not. Over 100 yards, but only 3.5 YPC.

I want to remind everyone of a few 1st round RB’s we have selected in the past. Let’s start with Duece because he was picked even though we already had a good Running back in Ricky! That worked out really well for us. Then let’s skip down to Mark who until recently was our leading rusher. Both guys were picked while we already had good backs and worked out great. Not to mention Reggie!

 

[St. Widge]

I want to remind everyone of a few 1st round RB’s we have selected in the past. Let’s start with Duece because he was picked even though we already had a good Running back in Ricky! That worked out really well for us. Then let’s skip down to Mark who until recently was our leading rusher. Both guys were picked while we already had good backs and worked out great. Not to mention Reggie!

That doesn't mean that this pick would work. In addition, Deuce was the 23rd pick in the 1st and Ingram was the 28th pick in the first. I don't think most would have an issue with taking Jeanty at #23 of #28, but we have the #10 pick (likely) and he probably won't be there at #23 or #28.

And, I'll remind you that Alvin Kamara was picked in the 3rd round.

Jeanty is a good player. The question is whether he is the type of generational RB that justifies taking him in the top 10?

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

We all have to understand this will not be a one year turnaround! It’s going to take 2-3 years. We need playmakers as well as solid line. Taking a great player in the first is a must even if he’s not high on our list.

I absolutely agree this is 3+ year turnaround. Which makes even less sense to select a RB that high.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

That doesn't mean that this pick would work. In addition, Deuce was the 23rd pick in the 1st and Ingram was the 28th pick in the first. I don't think most would have an issue with taking Jeanty at #23 of #28, but we have the #10 pick (likely) and he probably won't be there at #23 or #28.

And, I'll remind you that Alvin Kamara was picked in the 3rd round.

Jeanty is a good player. The question is whether he is the type of generational RB that justifies taking him in the top 10?

The argument that Kamara was picked in the 3rd round stands on 1 leg and can be easily swiped out from under anyone. Tom Brady was picked in the 5th or 6th, yet we all know good and well that any realistic shot at finding a franchise QB will happen in the first round, maybe early 2nd.

And while its hard to imagine, RB isn't that far off. Most good, dependable, starting RB talent is found in the first or second. Now, there is a solid argument that each draft has 2x, maybe even 4x more good RB's then QB's, which explains why RB's tend to drop in the draft until there is a run. It's no secret that QB's, LT's, CB's and Pass Rushers are more coveted (not in any specific order). But its easy to argue that a good RB is necessary.

I think RB is absolutely necessary. And if a Jeanty talent lands in your lap, you have to take it. Brooks would've had no shot at all without Deuce. Defenses never planned to stop Brooks, they planned for Deuce which put Brooks in a much better position to succeed. And perhaps most people may have forgotten, but LaDainian Tomlinson was a massive factor in Brees starting off his career well. Teams were constantly loading 8 in the box against him and that level of early success, and teams planning for the RB over the QB, really helps set up QB's for success early in their career playing a major factor in learning and confidence.

And the simple truth is, relying on a 32 year old RB as a bell cow is a recipe for disaster. So whether its this offseason, or the next we have to address RB. If Jeanty lands in our laps, it's debatably foolish to not take him. And the 10th pick doesn't matter. Adrian Peterson and LT were both taken top 5, and fans of both teams, as well as player personal don't regret taking either one.

Then what happens if we get trade offers for someone to move up for him? well, we have to weigh the value. Getting a few picks, and being able to take Skattebo plus some talent on Oline could arguably be more beneficial to us, assuming those draft picks work out.

 

[Snakehead]

That doesn't mean that this pick would work. In addition, Deuce was the 23rd pick in the 1st and Ingram was the 28th pick in the first. I don't think most would have an issue with taking Jeanty at #23 of #28, but we have the #10 pick (likely) and he probably won't be there at #23 or #28.

And, I'll remind you that Alvin Kamara was picked in the 3rd round.

Jeanty is a good player. The question is whether he is the type of generational RB that justifies taking him in the top 10?

He is.