League insiders tells Tony Pauline that Aaron Glenn will end up being Saints Head Coach [Edit: Underhill says no decision is close to being made]

[texasjefe]

BOHICA

 

[nakadish]

Why can't they just look for who they think will be a good HC regardless of whether they have ties to the Saints or not.? It's not like AG's name only comes up with the Saints HC job.

 

[Domeination]

I think even getting involved or having input on staff selection is kind of out of pocket for a GM. Like why on earth would Loomis have motive to want to keep any of these guys on our staff?

The process should be, we hire a head coach who we believe in, and we let him select his staff. It's unheard of for a GM to say "it'd be really nice if you kept these guys on" kinda thing.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

The previous hiring cycle with Allen and now apparently zeroing in on someone who has a history with the team tells me he’s not looking for anyone who’ll shake things up.

The previous hiring cycle was about maintaining what Payton had built. They (wrongly) thought the train would just keep moving. The desire for familiarity dos not have to mean that they are looking to keep the status quo. Aaron Glenn is not Dennis Allen. All of this talk of ego and whatnot is just more fan board psychologist nonsense.

 

[Pkessling]

Loomis, once again, will take the lazy, easy route. Rather than pursue the best possible HC prospect after an exhaustive search.

 

[BoNcHiE]

Yes, let’s bring back Dennis Allen’s secondary coach and saddle him with Dennis Allen’s old coaches.

Sounds like a recipe for success.

If Aaron Glenn hadn’t been here before, no one would want him. He’s familiar. I’m sure he’s a good guy and players like him. But this team needs a difference maker who can produce an identity for this team. Glenn is an average defensive coordinator running the same scheme that has already failed miserably with our players. That’s not an identity.

 

[Booker]

Out of curiosity, do you feel the same about Joe Brady who has a history with the team?

I don’t think Joe Brady has any business sniffing head coaching jobs anywhere just yet, needs at least a couple more years as an OC.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

People hate consistency, but it’s a smart way of doing business. The Ravens have been running the same defensive scheme for years. No matter who’s the DC they are tutored in it.

There’s nothing wrong w/ the scheme. Glenn and Ryan Nielsen took it to different places and had success. Allen had a passive defensive philosophy and the better defenses in the league are blitzing.

Respectfully the turnovers went way down after we lost Allen’s play-calling.

With all that being said I’d rather Rizzi over Glenn if retaining coaches is part of the negotiations. That probably may include Kubiak among others.

 

[BoNcHiE]

People hate consistency, but it’s a smart way of doing business. The Ravens have been running the same defensive scheme for years. No matter who’s the DC they are tutored in it.

There’s nothing wrong w/ the scheme. Glenn and Ryan Nielsen took it to different places and had success. Allen had a passive defensive philosophy and the better defenses in the league are blitzing.

Respectfully the turnovers went way down after we lost Allen’s play-calling.

With all that being said I’d rather Rizzi over Glenn if retaining coaches is part of the negotiations. That probably may include Kubiak among others.

Well, there are some things wrong with it. We've seen it play out many times late in games, and it's probably cost us at least a couple of Super Bowl opportunities. When you run a man-heavy scheme, you live and die by the individual performances of above-average players, and if injuries hit, things go downhill in a hurry. Look at Detroit's defense over the last several weeks.

And if Aaron Glenn comes here, he isn't going to have Detroit's defensive roster. He's going to have one much worse to work with. If we want to go with a defensive HC, at least Brian Flores has a history of elevating talent and designing a scheme around them. Everywhere he goes, he gets the most out of his defenses.

 

[DSnfla]

One thing to be open to keeping coaches (versus just firing everyone), another to be forced to keep certain coaches whether the head coach believes it is best for the team or not. I would like to believe it is the former instead of the latter.

Why is it automatically people are assuming that it's Adolph Loomis saying " You Vill keep see Ovensive coordinator und his staff or you vill not get de job" SMH Sounds like maybe ML is seeing if Gleen would be open to keeping KK and the O staff . Not like it's never happened before

 

[DerrickB]

Might as well bring back Ryan Nielsen

 

[ravenblade23x]

I don't want this to be true, I pray to god that this is way more conjecture and speculation and less insider knowledge.

Having said that I would not be surprised at all. Loomis was 1000% behind DA as being the Coach of the future for this team. He made it clear in the now infamous gum smacking PR that he felt DA was the right man for the job. Nick and the guys at NOF have done enough reporting to make it clear that left up to him alone, DA would not have been fired midseason. We also know that Loomis feels like injuries derailed this season, which to some degree they did, but for some reason also seem unwilling or incapable of looking at the other many faults this team has.

Would anyone be surprised if we:

1. Hired Glen or some other coach that Loomis was familiar that would be open to keep staff in place.
2. Restructure Carr with the goal of him being the starter for the next 2-3 years.
3. Bring back almost all of the old vets and just have a retread of the last 3 years under Allen.
4. Keep KK, that way Carr does not need to learn a new system, and many of the old offensive coaching staff.

None of this would shock me, but I would hate every second of it.

 

[Hubig]

That is a complete gross article and I hope none of that is remotely true but because its Loomis, I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

 

[DSnfla]

Just because he acknowledges what happened in New Orleans doesn't make him the right hire for head coach here. I agree that he has credentials, even though I'm personally not impressed by them, either here as DB coach or in Detroit. Sure, he seems like a standup guy, but he's a terrible fit here -- especially as long as Loomis continues to wield any kind of influence over personnel or hiring staff. That doesn't mean I think Glenn a 'yes man', but I do think he'd allow Loomis to continue the false and destructive narrative that the team is 'close'.

Additionally, I believe many of the same schemes that have doomed this team lately on defense will remain. His defenses in Detroit -- even without injuries -- have been average to slightly above average. There is nothing new he brings here. Just because he works with Dan Campbell, doesn't mean he is anything like Dan Campbell from a culture perspective. I mean, is he going to bring Brad Holmes with him?

I continue to believe Glenn is best suited to the Jets or another team, because he'll get a clean slate there, without the baggage of Loomis and the Payton era.

AG is not my 1st choice for HC , I'll say that 1st. But he has the #6 defense in pts allowed and it would probably be better if the Lions O was not so good because with big leads the other teams O gets garbage pts and yds

Why do you think AG is a terrible fit here? Say what you want about DA but it was not his schemes that were the problem here it was his discipline and his failure to hold players accountable.

The baggage that ML and SP have here is a winning team for most of the last decade