Dennis Allen confirms that Mickey Loomis was not in favor of firing him after Panthers loss

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Covington Saint said:
i believe people are making way too much of comments made by mickey about dennis allen. mickey is not wrong about anything he's said about the dennis allen situation. Many of you are fools to not take the actual team to task for quitting during the year. None of this take means dennis allen should not have been fired later in the season in a more respectable manner or anything. Rizzi was always fools gold. Our injury situations are not dennis' fault and have absolutely crushed his tenure here.
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Our soft tissue injury problems are mostly his fault. As Mathieu ranted about, dude ran soft practices, 35 plays at walkthrough speed. The Cardinals for example would go through 200 plays at full speed. It had guys not prepared physically and mentally which led to pulled hammys and missed tackles.
 
JackDiesel said:
Our soft tissue injury problems are mostly his fault. As Mathieu ranted about, dude ran soft practices, 35 plays at walkthrough speed. The Cardinals for example would go through 200 plays at full speed. It had guys not prepared physically and mentally which led to pulled hammys and missed tackles.
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Dang. Didn’t work out for the Cards either. I want to run the practices that Dan Campbell runs.
 
liveoakh said:
Missed placed loyalty is a hell of a drug.

Ms Gayle has an 8 billion dollar franchise to protect. With a heavy investment in surrounding superdome properties. She isn't going to let Mickey pick the next coach. And I bet Mickey has already been told as much.
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Hope this is true, we will see....

DSnfla said:
I never said that DA should not have been fired and by all indications that would have happened at the end of the season
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Why do you keep bringing this up? The point is moot.....all indications are just hearsay....it doesn't matter because the team had already quit on DA midway through the season, any idea how ugly it would've gotten had ML had his way and retained DA for the rest of the season? It would have been a total shirtshow......thankfully Gayle realized this and acted....hopefully she does the right thing and take ML out of the decision on the new HC....
 
DSnfla said:
What is common knowledge is that ML nor Tom Benson were ever in favor of firing a HC MID-SEASON. It's been reported by Underhill that he thought that ML was going to fire DA at the end of the season. Yes DA needed to go. Looking back just what did firing DA mid-season accomplish? All it did was give Rizzi and maybe Brian Young an audition. Woods was abysmal as DC. The D played worse after DA left except in the 1st game or so.

The going over ML's head is kind of exaggerated. ML said himself that they came to a consensus on firing DA , not this fantasy that Mrs B. came in like a stormtrooper and demanded DA be fired on the spot. Firing DA mid-season really accomplished little, he would have been gone on black Monday
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I would agree with you that Loomis would’ve fired him post season, but not with the part where you said it didn’t accomplish anything. It’s 100% the more professional and classy move to fire him after all is said and done, but when looking at it from outside of a win-loss and Xs and Os perspective, the move midseason let the fans know that their voice matters, and I think that’s important.

Now obviously if any small market team is safe from losing its fan base the Saints are one of them, so it’s not like it was a desperation move to save the connection the team has with the city or anything, but it’s been a long hard road for fans since Drew’s last season and then Payton leaving. The fans needed to feel like they had done something that helped the team, and the only thing that could be done was letting go of the guy the majority of fans blamed it on. I sort of feel like it was a way of apologizing to the city and letting them know that they’re still fighting and trying to find a way to win.
 
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DSnfla said:
I never said that DA should not have been fired and by all indications that would have happened at the end of the season
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What indications? Mick consistently signaled he was willing to give the deer the benefit of the doubt. He should have been fired last year. Mick is a stubborn old man and I have absolutely no faith in his leadership going forward.
 
sfidc3 said:
Hope this is true, we will see....



Why do you keep bringing this up? The point is moot.....all indications are just hearsay....it doesn't matter because the team had already quit on DA midway through the season, any idea how ugly it would've gotten had ML had his way and retained DA for the rest of the season? It would have been a total shirtshow......thankfully Gayle realized this and acted....hopefully she does the right thing and take ML out of the decision on the new HC....
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And ML said in his OWN words that they came to an agreement to let DA go . I bring it up because Underhill THE most trusted Saints reporter has said it more than once no matter how much you don't want to acknowledge it

So tell me just what did firing DA mid-season accomplish that firing him at the end of the season would not have?? It gave Rizzi an audition for a job that I think he is underqualified for. We got a lil juice and we won maybe 1 game more than we would have.

But most of all it showed potential HC candidates that " Hey , you can get fired mid-season in N.O."
 
No2DC said:
What indications? Mick consistently signaled he was willing to give the deer the benefit of the doubt. He should have been fired last year. Mick is a stubborn old man and I have absolutely no faith in his leadership going forward.
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SMH it has been reported MANY times by Underhill , THE most trusted Saints reporter and Tripp that they felt that ML was going to fire DA at the end of the season. ML , just like Tom Benson did not believe in firing HC mid-season , it RARELY does any good and it's a not so goof look for the organization
 
DSnfla said:
SMH it has been reported MANY times by Underhill , THE most trusted Saints reporter and Tripp that they felt that ML was going to fire DA at the end of the season. ML , just like Tom Benson did not believe in firing HC mid-season , it RARELY does any good and it's a not so goof look for the organization
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Okay, I guess I gotta take your word for it since Nick said it. :ROFLMAO: Loomis went to bat publicly numerous times for a guy who should have ever been given a second chance, so no I don't think it was a done deal.
 
This whole getting fired mid-season is the biggest straw hat out there. Getting fired mid-season or the end of the season is insignificant. I think getting fired after one year is a bigger deal. DA got almost three years to prove himself twice, this is a business.
 
No2DC said:
This whole getting fired mid-season is the biggest straw hat out there. Getting fired mid-season or the end of the season is insignificant. I think getting fired after one year is a bigger deal. DA got almost three years to prove himself twice, this is a business.
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I don't think you know how potential HC candidates look at things
 

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