Saints planned to interview Mike McCarthy; McCarthy didn’t garner enough interest from Saints and will take a year off (1 Viewer)

[DaveXA]

Valid points but he's still a retread.

Not all retreads are the same. Payton is doing quite well in a pretty short period of time in Denver. And Reid needs no explanation. Vermeil was a retread who took the Rams to the SB. And there are other examples. Some do great and some don't.

 

[DSnfla]

This is an excellent point. I took it at face value that no coaches had won the Super Bowl with two different teams but did not bother to check how many had made it to the Superbowl with two different teams. You are right that it is 7, Shula, Parcels, Reeves, Vermeil, Holmgren, Fox, and Reid. I don't recall the details of the rest, but Vermeil was about a foot short of winning it on the last play. This makes it clear that the no coaches have won Super Bowls with two different teams is even less relevant than I thought when 7 coaches have made it with two different teams.

If you want to go back further Don Shula won a SB with Miami and a NFL championship with the Balt Colts. AND Weeb Eubank won 2 NFL championships AND a SB with the then AFL Jets

 

[SweetT]

NO he didn't , you are twisting words SMH

What did he say then? And who was he making the correlation to?

 

[DSnfla]

I don't have a problem with the idea that some would rather swing for the fences. I'd probably rather do that too, but let's not act like McCarty isn't a good coach or that he wouldn't be a good bet to win a lot of games and get this team back to the playoffs while building a better roster.

I'm taking the guy that almost always hits doubles and triples than a guy that has the POTENTIAL to hit a home run . I'm winning more games with the former

 

[DaveXA]

That's fine. Sniffs brought Reid into the discussion I think comparing Reid in Philly to McCarthy in Dallas. Something something.

I'm just not into picking up our next coach from the dumpster behind The Star.

Loomis took a chance on a young offensive coordinator in 2006, and I'd like that to happen again. I think you have said similar in your catalog of recent posts.

A young coach like what happened with Payton would be great, and I hope Brady is that guy, but it's definitely a risky play. He could crash and burn just as easily as be successful. I don't mind taking that risk.

That said, it's not a bad idea to hire a coach with McCarthy's track record. One thing we'll know for sure, he's not going to mess around and he's serious about building a winning organization. We already have a blueprint in what Payton has done in Denver. Payton and McCarthy are the same age and their career arc has been uncannily similar, and McCarthy didn't have a Brees.

 

[DSnfla]

What did he say then? And who was he making the correlation to?

You said that ML said DA WAS Chuck Knoll. ML said was

"Mickey Loomis on keeping HC Dennis Allen: “Chuck Noll his first three years: 1-13, 5-9, 6-8. They recognized he's a good football coach. Bill Belichick, his first three years: 6-10, 7-9, 7-9. Tom Landry: 0-11, 4-9, 5-8, 4-10, 5-8. All of them Hall of Fame coaches. The easy thing is to blame them.”​

The meaning of this statement was if Knoll , Belichick and Landry were fired in the 1st few yrs of being a HC then those teams would have missed out on a HOF HC. In fact Cleveland DID.

NOWHERE did ML say that DA was Chuck Knoll . You read what you wanted to read. And don't go accusing me of taking up for DA , he needed to be fired but your hatred of ML is blinding you from what he meant

 

[DSnfla]

Let's be honest with ourselves, Aaron Rodgers made McCarthy, not the other way around. Matt Lafleur comes in after McCarthy and the Packers got better.

McCarthy goes to Dallas with a much more talented roster (excluding QB) and gets whooped on often when his team plays against a top 10 nfl coach.

That's not a good sign.

We're aiming for mediocrity here instead of swinging for the fence and getting a coach that can out coach opposition. As I've said before, McCarthy should be viewed as a last resort.

LOL , so let me get this right. By your ridiculous logic. Brees made Payton, Brady made Belichick ,Mahomes made Reid,Montana made Walsh, Aikman made Johnson, Elway made Shannahan . Roethlisberger made Tomlin. Should I go on??

 

[DSnfla]

Did you know: the most penalized team in the league the last four years is…drumroll…Dallas Cowboys.

Can’t wait to see all the accountability and discipline this overrated turd is gonna bring us. Yall are brilliant

Did you know that while winning those SBs the Oakland Raiders were the most penalized team in the league??

 

[DSnfla]

Dallas didn’t fire him, they mutually departed, his contract was up

From what I read McCarthy walked away from the table

 

[DSnfla]

Guy is butchering basic facts, not worth a listen.

“Seven of his eleven playoff wins were 2010 or earlier” is false, he only had four playoff wins through 2010.

“The 2023 offense had the worst offensive efficiency in 20 years for the Cowboys” is just a joke, the rest of the league must have been abysmal, since the Cowboys were 1st in scoring and 5th in yards.

90% of the video is him just making bad jokes about McCarthy being a bad hire because he doesn’t have any real arguments to make about why.

That what we get when every wannabe Youtube, podcast unqualified guy that never played ,coached a real football game that takes a course and thinks he's a expert searching for clicks is out there.

And the worst part is all the goofballs that think that just because the guy is on the internet he knows what he or she is talking about and post the video like it's Bill Walsh in the video SMH

 

[DSnfla]

Except that Reid didn't just implode in consecutive playoffs in Dallas. SMA

LOL what do you call winning ONE playoff game in 5 yrs ??

 

[StudioSaint]

By your ridiculous logic.

It's faster and easier to just type "by your logic." Adding "ridiculous" is unnecessary and doesn't add anything but animosity to the discussion.

So why do you repeatedly do it? What do you hope to accomplish?

 

[3ParStillDriver]

A young offensive coach is my preference. But I would find it hard to find a lot of fault in hiring McCarty because although he isn't without fault, he's proven to be a good head coach.

Not really. No. He inherited a good team in Dallas and still underachieved. The guy was been fired twice, and one of those times was a player mutiny. Good coaches get extensions, not fired. Especially in Green Bay.

 

[Rouxble]

Not really. No. He inherited a good team in Dallas and still underachieved. The guy was been fired twice, and one of those times was a player mutiny. Good coaches get extensions, not fired. Especially in Green Bay.

He was there for 13 years, it wasn’t on one contract. Using that logic, no one should have hired Reid after he was fired by the Eagles.