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Most may be rubbish but there ate a few seemingly far fetched conspiracies that have been proven by judicial investigations and academic research….for example

NATO really was operating stay behind armies in a number of European countries as part of its postwar operation gladio program. In Italy these networks fused with ultra right wing terror groups to assassinate leftists and commit murderous terrorist attacks on the public which were then blamed on leftists.

British troops massacred rebels in Malaya and Kenya.

American and British intelligence conspired with Islamic extremists airlifting fighters to fight Serbian troops in Bosnia.

Countelpro files revealed a massive and illegal spying program on domestic us citizens by the fbi including black propaganda operations. Revelations confirmed by the break in at an fbi office.

CIA supplying state of the art weapons and explosive to Seaga’s JLP goons in Jamaica. The gangs got so powerful they left politics for drug running and became infamous as the shower posse

CIA protected a Cuban terrorist who blew up an airliner and used him as an asset in its Latin American and Caribbean black ops

There are countless well documented acts as well as some well founded rumours of similarly appalling secrets. Such as MI6 using a children’s home in Belfast as a child brothel for entrapment and blackmail opportunities against Irish politicians.

People just obsess over the daft ones when many are back by historic research and judicial enquiries.

The Vatican bank being taken over by Organised crime and its funds used to bankroll criminal activities

P2 lodge members being part of a secret state in Italy is a case in point. Sounds crazy but there’s at least some circumstantial evidence…Licio Gelli’s briefcase for example.

And no I don’t think the cia or fbi killed Kennedy…common sense tells you that it would have been easier and safer simply to release information and rumours about Kennedy’s affairs. That would have ended his political life in 1963
 
Geldo said:
Most may be rubbish but there ate a few seemingly far fetched conspiracies that have been proven by judicial investigations and academic research….for example

NATO really was operating stay behind armies in a number of European countries as part of its postwar operation gladio program. In Italy these networks fused with ultra right wing terror groups to assassinate leftists and commit murderous terrorist attacks on the public which were then blamed on leftists.

British troops massacred rebels in Malaya and Kenya.

American and British intelligence conspired with Islamic extremists airlifting fighters to fight Serbian troops in Bosnia.

Countelpro files revealed a massive and illegal spying program on domestic us citizens by the fbi including black propaganda operations. Revelations confirmed by the break in at an fbi office.

CIA supplying state of the art weapons and explosive to Seaga’s JLP goons in Jamaica. The gangs got so powerful they left politics for drug running and became infamous as the shower posse

CIA protected a Cuban terrorist who blew up an airliner and used him as an asset in its Latin American and Caribbean black ops

There are countless well documented acts as well as some well founded rumours of similarly appalling secrets. Such as MI6 using a children’s home in Belfast as a child brothel for entrapment and blackmail opportunities against Irish politicians.

People just obsess over the daft ones when many are back by historic research and judicial enquiries.

The Vatican bank being taken over by Organised crime and its funds used to bankroll criminal activities

P2 lodge members being part of a secret state in Italy is a case in point. Sounds crazy but there’s at least some circumstantial evidence…Licio Gelli’s briefcase for example.

And no I don’t think the cia or fbi killed Kennedy…common sense tells you that it would have been easier and safer simply to release information and rumours about Kennedy’s affairs. That would have ended his political life in 1963
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Don't forget the Iran-Contra affair nor Edward Snowden revealing the NSA's long time illegal mass surveillance of private citizens.
 
Rogan knows 90% of the stuff that he agrees with for his guests is BS, but he knows his followers eat it up and believe it . most of his listeners are morons. it's like selling drugs to kids, they just don't know better and lack the intelligence .
 
Taurus said:
If he plays his cards right and builds his fortune, he can book a seat on Virgin Galactic and see for himself one day.
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but even that wouldn't convince people like that. they'll just say it's a Disney style ride or they were drugged and it was all just a show... once it's a conspiracy in their mind, they will make up all kinds of "reasons" why the proof is not real.
 
Excellent and interesting article
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Thirty percent of Americans claim, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the last presidential elections were “rigged”. Millions are sure that the “deep state” is plotting to import immigrants to vote against “real Americans” in the future.

Meanwhile in Russia, the majority of people claim that the Kremlin is the innocent party in its brutal invasion of Ukraine.

When Ukrainians call their relatives in Russia to tell them about the atrocities, all too often they hear their own kin parrot the Kremlin’s propaganda lines: the atrocities are faked, or false flags, or necessary in order to impose Russia’s greatness.

Across the world we see the growth of propaganda that promotes an alternative reality where black is white and white is black, and where truth is cast away in favour of a sense of superiority and ever more murderous paranoia.

How can we defeat it?

It’s easy to despair when fact checking is rejected by the millions who don’t want to hear the truth in the first place; when worthy journalism that preaches the virtues of “democracy” crumples in the face of suspicion, seeded purposefully for decades, that the media are actually “enemies of the people”.

We are not, however, the first generation to confront the challenge of authoritarian propaganda. And as I looked for past experiences to inform our own, I discovered a British second world war media operation that managed to engage huge audiences who had been loyal to the Nazis and undermine their faith in Hitler’s regime.

If we think reaching people in “echo chambers” today is tough, think about how hard it was to persuade Germans to trust the people who were literally trying to kill them.

This campaign was led by Sefton Delmer, who as head of special operations for the Political Warfare Executive, created dozens of radio stations, newspapers leaflets and rumours, all intended to break the spell cast by Hitler’s propaganda by fair means or foul.

He employed stars from the German cabaret scene, soldiers, surrealist artists, psychiatrists, forgers, spies and dissidents from across occupied Europe. Ian Fleming and Muriel Spark lent their talents to Delmer’s operations. According to declassified UK government files, which have been unearthed and organised by the historian and archivist Lee Richards, around 40% of German soldiers tuned into Delmer’s stations.

The SS Obergruppenführer of Munich complained that Delmer’s stations were among the top three in the city and were causing complete havoc. Goebbels was dismayed by how effective they were.

Delmer’s interest, however, went beyond the uniquely nasty realm of nazism. He saw the same patterns at play throughout Germany in the 20th century as well as in Britain during the first world war. And his wartime work has many lessons for us today…….

How people think and act can be just as important as what they think when undermining the most malign propaganda.

People are most susceptible to conspiracy theories, for example, when they don’t feel they have any agency or influence over their lives and rely on conspiracies to explain the world.

Many are drawn to “strongmen” when they feel they can’t take back control over their lives. The real antidote to this is not plying them with facts. It’s helping to fix the underlying lack of agency.

So what can we draw from the strange, contradictory experience of Delmer’s deeds and misdeeds?

Dictators and propagandists inside democracies use hate-spreading troll farms and conspiracy-spewing cable news; target audiences according to their deepest grievances and encourage cruelty.

To compete we need to develop a new generation of democratic media with the same focus, but with different values. This needs to be done at scale……..



www.theguardian.com

The man who tricked Nazi Germany: lessons from the past on how to beat disinformation

The story of the British man who took on Hitler’s information machine offers valuable insights into the fight against the rise of authoritarianism
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