A microcosm of Winston’s career (2 Viewers)

[jahsoul357]

He got the ball where he wanted it to go. It's simple, throw it away in that spot. This is hardly a new issue for him. The ball made it 30-40 yards down the field. All he had to do was direct it to the right and it goes out of bounds, but instead, he forced the issue.

You can say comparing Drew is absurd too instead of playing that game.

It's a nonsensical argument. But hey, if making those kinds of illogical arguments floats your boat, go for it. But don't be surprised with the pushback you're gonna get.

What's nonsensible about saying that I don't freak out about certain things because I saw Drew do it in the past and didn't care that much in real time? Yall are giving me push back because I said I'm not tripping as hard regarding the game ending in a turnover because I saw plenty of games before 2021 end with one.

I'm getting pushback for making this factual statement.

I've seen Drew throw plenty of game sealing interceptions and it didn't bother me that much because more often than not, he kept us in those games.

And I don't mind pushback, because everything that I've said can verified. Look at the quoted sentence; I am talking about the situation while yall are making it DB vs JW, but I'm the one making a nonsensical argument. All because I choose to apply the same energy across the board? Why should I act like it is the worst then ever now when I didn't think that back then? The way that I react to the result is not dependent on who performs the action. Again, I'm talking about the result while everyone else is focused on the person who caused it. More people are offended that I said that Drew threw game sealing interceptions and ignoring the point all together.

 

[DaveXA]

What's nonsensible about saying that I don't freak out about certain things because I saw Drew do it in the past and didn't care that much in real time?

Comparing a HOF QB with a journeyman, borderline starter is nonsensical, period. It makes no sense. It's like comparing Mahomes and Mayfield. Why would anyone do that?

Yall are giving me push back because I said I'm not tripping as hard regarding the game ending in a turnover because I saw plenty of games before 2021 end with one.

I'm giving you pushback because it's not a valid comparison. Fans were mad at Drew for throwing a lot of those interceptions. They're mad at Winston for the same reasons. It's human nature. And Winston threw 2 interceptions to end the game, not just 1.

I'm getting pushback for making this factual statement.

You're getting pushback for comparing a HOF qb with a borderline starter, that is all.

And I don't mind pushback, because everything that I've said can verified. Look at the quoted sentence; I am talking about the situation while yall are making it DB vs JW, but I'm the one making a nonsensical argument.

The situations each stand on their own. Forget Drew. The bottom line is Winston closed out the game with 2 interceptions. The fact that Drew did in the past is irrelevant.

All because I choose to apply the same energy across the board?

Not sure why you're talking about energy here.

Why should I act like it is the worst then ever now when I didn't think that back then?

There's this thing called recency bias. Basically, when you're in the week after a tough loss where the QB throws a late game interception, they're gonna get a lot of criticism regardless what their name is. Drew got his fair share at the time, and Winston is getting it now. The difference is Drew had a HOF career, Winston, not so much. Which makes the comparisons silly.

The way that I react to the result is not dependent on who performs the action. Again, I'm talking about the result while everyone else is focused on the person who caused it. More people are offended that I said that Drew threw game sealing interceptions and ignoring the point all together.

Bringing Drew into the discussion just muddies the waters for the Winston discussion.

Anyway, I've said my bit. Not sure you're gonna change your approach so I'm moving on.

 

[DSnfla]

We don't even know if he was trying to get it out of bounds or not but Winston got blasted the moment he let go of the ball. I don't know what he was trying to do but if we are giving passes for getting hit in the facemask, getting blasted by a free rusher that AK didn't pick up should have some level of goodwill. *shrugs*.


Actually, if you remember those times, it wasn't the volume of passes that's caused the interceptions. Drew's interceptions normally came throwing the ball further down the field. Tom Brady the last 11 season of his career averaged 20 less passes a season that Drew, but his interception rate is an entire percentage point lower, because he has always thrown the ball shorter. Drew's interception rate plummeted when he went all in on the dink and dunk.



You are really misreading my post. If you ever really look into it, I say that I really don't care about certain things as much as others because I saw Drew do it. I keep the same energy, no matter who is under center. I didn't care about interceptions when Drew was averaging 16 interceptions a season, why should I care about them now, as long as they come with points. Most are wanting to turn it into a comparison when in reality, it's me saying that if you really looked at Drew's game like you said you did, you shouldn't be tripping as hard. I didn't act like the Pre 2015 Drew Brees never existed because the pass game got quicker and he threw less interceptions but the problem is that's the version of Drew that a lot holds dear. My favorite version of Drew was the one that didn't mind tight window throws down field, threw up 50/50 balls so his play makers could have a chance, and would let it rip without hesitation. That came with turnovers and "what the crap" throws at times but that man also averaged nearly 40TDs a season. I keep the same energy, no matter who the player is, and the player doesn't make me look at the result any different.

My friend , you need to really look at the play. The blitzing LB telegraphed his move before the snap. JW made no adjustment. JW was staring right at him as he came through the line. From the moment the LB came through the line JW just reared back and threw it up in the air just like that poem, " I shot an arrow into the air, where it fell I know not where" CO had no chance the DB was playing 9yds off him. Bonehead throw especially on 3rd and 3 with 3:11 left. Only thing that would have saved the play is if and they should have called roughing the passer because he hit JW under the chin with the crown of the helmet
And if you don't know that the more passes, ANY passes a QB throws the more chances of a pick happening, Well you're gonna have to figure that out on your own