Aaron Glenn: You're not just getting a defensive coach if you hire me. (79 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

Was he drafted by the Jets?

Yes in Round 1, Pick 12. And strangely enough he was also drafted by the Texans in the 2002 Expansion Draft, Round 1, Pick 3.

 

[St. Widge]

saints fans.... "yeah well let him go win a super bowl and maybe he'd be good enough for us to consider"

"Unless he won the Super Bowl a long time ago in which case, pass."

 

[Covington Saint]

Yes in Round 1, Pick 12. And strangely enough he was also drafted by the Texans in the 2002 Expansion Draft, Round 1, Pick 3.

interesting, i just went and looked up the expansion draft... .jets had 3 players drafted and could have removed players after each 1 was taken... they chose to allow these players to leave essentially.

Rules of the draft​

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Process​

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Each NFL team listed five players that the Texans could select,[6][7][8] and the Texans were required to claim either 30 players[6][7][8] or $27.2 million in contracts (38% of the 2002 salary cap).[7][8][12] After the Texans selected a player from an existing team, that team could remove a player from their remaining list.[7][8][12] If a second player was taken, the existing team could then pull back its remaining players.[7][8][12] However, teams were not required to remove players from the draftable list, resulting in three Jets and three Jaguars being drafted to the Texans. The Texans were prohibited from selecting a player from a team and trading the player back to that club.[12]

 

[Elvis]

Glenn isn't my first choice (certainly not last either) and we may not be his. He has options right now and history with several HC needy teams. My biggest concern is with who he can bring with him to be coordinators. Are they Saints retreads from when he was here? Lions position coaches? Does he have a pool of people in on other teams that he has relationships with?

 

[Mamba]

True, but it doesn't change the fact that he is going to have to hire a good OC because he does not call offensive plays or design offenses or that if he is successful he is going to have to keep hiring good OCs every few years. Doesn't mean a team shouldn't hire him, but it is something to consider.

I personally think that his leadership would probably overcome those things, but it is an issue with any defensive coach.

No doubt, but the reverse is also true. Whoever hires Ben Johnson will have to reconcile with the reality that in the best of worlds, they'll have a constant cycle of DCs coming and going.

All I'm saying is I want a CEO for a head coach who can provide broad direction and accountability to every phase of the game, including roster management.

 

[Saint Greg]

I want an offensive playcaller so we don't have to worry about losing our OC everytime we have a good year on offense. Unless he's going to be that, he's not going to be on my list.

 

[No2DC]

Glenn isn't my first choice (certainly not last either) and we may not be his. He has options right now and history with several HC needy teams. My biggest concern is with who he can bring with him to be coordinators. Are they Saints retreads from when he was here? Lions position coaches? Does he have a pool of people in on other teams that he has relationships with?

I think that's a key part of the interview process: who will be on your staff? As I mentioned in another thread, I don't think Campbell was hired for his X&OS.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Love this, and totally understand if his first choice is the Jets.

 

[St4ever]

The biggest hurdle with Glenn is he worked for the Saints already and knows exactly how Loomis screws up a roster with his management style. He may not want to work for that!

 

[St. Widge]

No doubt, but the reverse is also true. Whoever hires Ben Johnson will have to reconcile with the reality that in the best of worlds, they'll have a constant cycle of DCs coming and going.

All I'm saying is I want a CEO for a head coach who can provide broad direction and accountability to every phase of the game, including roster management.

I agree. But, I will say that it's probably easier to get and keep a good DC than it is to get or keep a good OC. Good OCs tend to get HC jobs quickly whereas DCs tend to have to wait.

Anyway, I just want the best HC possible regardless of what side of the ball he is on.

 

[gavinj]

Has the Lions defense been good or something? Every game I watch, they give up 30-40 points

 

[Dastheat_9]

I love his attitude and aggression. He has done a great job considering the injuries. I am just wary of teams that run as much man coverage as the Lions. Even Cover 1 man. Most of the players have their back to the QB in Passing situations. I am tapped out of pass interference, and scrambling QBs getting the best of us. Our coverage dictates their back to the QB, and Corners on islands.

 

[Doug B]

My biggest concern [about Glenn as HC] is with who he can bring with him to be coordinators. Are they Saints retreads from when he was here? Lions position coaches? Does he have a pool of people in on other teams that he has relationships with?

You got me curious, so I went back and checked out the offensive coaches that Aaron Glenn has coached with since his first job on Cleveland's staff in 2014. Not a bad list of names Glenn has worked with.

Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDaniel, Kevin O'Connell, Joe Brady, and Joe Lombardi are excluded below because they are currently NFL head coaches or offensive coordinators. Wilbert Montgomery is excluded because he retired from coaching in 2016.

Here are the best of the remaining guys:

John Morton
Denver passing game coordinator

John DeFilippo
Memphis Showboats (UFL) head coach

Ronald Curry
Buffalo Bills QB coach

Curtis Johnson
Houston Roughnecks (UFL) head coach

Dowell Loggains
Appalachian State head coach

Brian Angelichio
Minnesota Vikings passing game coordinator

Mark Brunell
Detroit Lions quarterbacks coach

Anthony Lynn
Washington Commanders run game coordinator and running backs coach

Antwaan Randle El
Detroit Lions wide receivers coach

Tanner Engstrand
Detroit Lions passing game coordinator

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And that doesn't include the coaches that Aaron Glenn played with or played under. Just guys who have been on coaching staffs with him.

 

[Doug B]

Has the Lions defense been good or something? Every game I watch, they give up 30-40 points

They've been starting several practice-squad guys on defense. Glenn's probably been maxing out their abilities.

 

[gavinj]

They should look at Chris Shula for HC, he’s done a phenomenal job with that Rams roster.