Alvin Kamara pleads no contest to lesser misdemeanor charge, jury trial is cancelled; civil suit also settled on confidential terms

[bigdaddysaints]

So you're blaming the guy for trying to walk away? Or am I not understanding what you're saying.

I said before he didn't get what he deserved, but he did get what he asked for.. I have zero doubt that he wanted an altercation, he just didn't expect them to go way beyond idiotic about it.

 

[Que Que 6]

I don't think anyone is hating anyone on this thread. It's just that for months we've had people saying that he will 100% do time for this. It seemed like people were actively rooting for the "thug" to do jail time for this "despicable act". Like what he did was just so far beyond the pale that he had to do time. Most of us were like what? He beat up a dude and he'll pay said dude a lot of money and that'll be it. We've seen this movie so many times before but the ending was going to be different this time.

Add to that the fact that we had people swearing up and down that they had seen the video and said that AK will absolutely go to jail months before any video was released. The people that saw this mysterious video made it seem like AK beat him down, poured gas on his twitching body, and then delivered a cold blooded one liner before lighting a match and dropping it on the poor guy. Then the video comes out and it's nothing like that. Like not even close. You could barely make out what was happening.

So many people turned on AK so quickly. I just wonder how they are going to handle it when he scores 3 TDs and dominates a game. Will they cheer for him or will they sit on their hands because they have morals and AK let them down?

Yup! Indignant, self-righteous folks are often the most insincere.

 

[DaveXA]

Because it was kept confidential as part of the plea. If you think all this guy got is 105K from the beating he took, then IDK what to tell you. I guess we can all believe what we want.

I suspect he probably got mid six figures. Much more than that doesn't make much sense.

 

[DaveXA]

It was on TV. Just a few days after it happened.

Like I said, if you don't believe it it's no skin off my nose.

Fair enough. Usually you can find the same video on the site of whatever outlet showed it. It's one of the stranger things I've ever seen or heard tho.

 

[SweetT]

So you're blaming the guy for trying to walk away? Or am I not understanding what you're saying.

Nope. Guy never tried to walk away. He tried to enter an elevator, when there were a group of 6 or 7 waiting to get on as well. If I’m a single human being, awaiting an elevator that a group is awaiting as well, I would let them go, and I would hang back. Oh and I wouldn’t mouth off, knowing I’m outnumbered by 5-6 people, while it being 4am in the morning. At that point, there was a 50/50 chance something bad could happen. But hey, he was in Vegas, maybe he thought he could get lucky.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

I was listening to a lawyer on the radio and he said those types of civil suits are usually 3-4 times times the damages in a criminal suit, but not uncommon to be more.

 

[DaveXA]

Nope. Guy never tried to walk away. He tried to enter an elevator, when there were a group of 6 or 7 waiting to get on as well. If I’m a single human being, awaiting an elevator that a group is awaiting as well, I would let them go, and I would hang back. Oh and I wouldn’t mouth off, knowing I’m outnumbered by 5-6 people, while it being 4am in the morning. At that point, there was a 50/50 chance something bad could happen. But hey, he was in Vegas, maybe he thought he could get lucky.

Not only that, from what I understand, there was interaction before they got to the elevator. He allegedly was talking sheet about one of the ladies there.

 

[SweetT]

Not only that, from what I understand, there was interaction before they got to the elevator. He allegedly was talking sheet about one of the ladies there.

Yeah I read somewhere that he was intentionally running into them throughout the night.

 

[DaveXA]

Yeah I read somewhere that he was intentionally running into them throughout the night.

Wouldn't surprise me considering his history.

 

[SweetT]

Wouldn't surprise me considering his history.

Yeah he’s an opportunist that was waiting for his big payday. It’s all good. That money will dry up soon enough once he starts flashing it like he is accustomed to doing. He’s a target now

 

[saint_drago]

Some of are saying we saw video before the latest one because we saw it. And I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it.

boutte I just want to make this very clear, I didn't mention you by name because I respect you and everyone else who claim to have seen the video (that came out months before the official video was released) that was only seen by a handful of people before it vanished. You and a few others who have made these claims aren't known for coming up with make believe stories. So I'm not saying you are lying or making it up for attention or crazy. You say you saw it so hey, that's good enough for me. It's weird and I can't explain it but I'm not going to sit here and call you a liar.

The issue I have is not whether or not you saw the mystery video. The issue I have is that people who saw the mystery video told us all that what AK did was disturbing and disgusting. They kept telling everyone that it was absolutely gruesome and AK deserves to go to prison after what they saw. So the actual video comes out and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE to what was described! AK's part in it wasn't disturbing or disgusting. It wasn't some barbaric and brutal act by a thug. AK got a few licks in but that's it. He didn't reach out and grip a nearby table to use it as leverage to stomp and kick the dude's head. He didn't repeatedly kick the man in the head and then do elbow drops on him. I swear to god some people made it out like AK curbed stomped the fella American History X style.

If you share information like that, drag a player through the mud, and then it turns out that the information you shared is total hogwash, do you think there should be some accountability there? I'm not talking about you in particular but in general.

 

[Doug B]

The issue I have is that people who saw the mystery video told us all that what AK did was disturbing and disgusting. They kept telling everyone that it was absolutely gruesome and AK deserves to go to prison after what they saw. So the actual video comes out and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE to what was described!

When I’ve discussed the Kamara case on another board, a lot of non-Saints fans believe Kamara was the one who was stomping on Greene’s head.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Some of are saying we saw video before the latest one because we saw it. And I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it.

You might not care...but I'll tell you that you ain't seen no first video.

The human mind in post factual America is a fascinating thing. There are people amongst us that can read/hear about something then visualize it to their own liking & then go about their lives as if their own manifestation of an event is what actually happened....and believe it to be true till their dying day.

 

[saint_drago]

When I’ve discussed the Kamara case on another board, a lot of non-Saints fans believe Kamara was the one who was stomping on Greene’s head.

I know. A lot of people thought that. The police interviewed Darnell Greene in the hospital. Greene said that he pushed AK's hand off his chest, he was pushed, and then he was kicked and punched by multiple people but the only one he could remember was AK. Even Greene himself never said that AK knocked him out and then stomped/kicked his head. Yet somehow the story morphed into AK laying the dude out and then brutally stomping him while he was unconscious. That didn't happen. It was a myth perpetuated by people who saw a video showing the "disturbing" and "disgusting" acts by AK. Not one single description of that mysterious video matched the actual video that was released.