Anything Over 6 or 7 wins with Winston at Qb would be considered a win (3 Viewers)

[liveoakh]

Not sure where people get the idea this is a loaded team. On offense we have a great WR and great RB. No TE or number 2WR, an unproven QB (no matter who gets the start) and an average O line.

D we have an aging DE and one that is always hurt, one great LB, and one great CB who may miss time and average safety’s. We are not loaded. We are average and if our QB stinks it up we will be terrible.

Other than Drew and M. Brown, this is basically the same team we started the season with last yr. No CB jack rabbit, no WR Sanders. Yea, we lost TE Cooks, but he played pretty pedestrian if you ask me. Truth to be known, in the CSP era, we have never fielded 2 CBs of this caliber of Latt and JR. Calloway and TQS played the #2 WR position till Sanders showed up. You are longing for a team we only fielded for 15 minutes, because we were chasing one last SB run for Drew. This team is as loaded as it has ever been, and Sean has won with 3 different QBs, he is going to win with Winston. Average O line???? What are you talking about?

 

[SystemShock]

And? That's just the point that I was making. There was friction.

It doesn't prove your claim that Brady threw picks left and right.

Funny enough, let's look at end of the article

"Brady is going to fight to get this right until he runs out of time. But the Bucs, and especially Leftwich, need to do a better job of collaborating with their quarterback."

In other words, let's finally adapt this playbook to Tom's strengths. They still kept some elements but also began to add more play-action, motion, etc.

Sure, still, doesn't prove your claim that Brady threw picks left and right.

And that means what?

It'd think it very obvious that it means Brady played against better secondaries the 4 games before the bye and poor secondaries after.

But I am.

No you are not.

You made an excuse as to why Brady threw 7 interceptions over a 4 game span, in which he threw interceptions left and right (if you want to go back and look at some of those bad passes).

I didn't make an excuse. It is very simple: when QBs play against better teams with good secondaries, chances are they will suffer more interceptions. The Saints (18 INTs, which BTW in 2 games accounted for 42% of Brady's 12 INT's) and the Chiefs (16 INTs), that's #1 and #2 in INTs last year. The Rams got 14 INTs. "Coincidentally", the other team in that 4 game span, the Panthers, who didn't get a pick, only picked 7 balls all season.

You say Brady threw picks left and right in those 4 games because of Arians' system. What then happened the previous 8 games in which Brady only threw 4 INTs (2 of them in 1 game to the Saints)? Was he not playing in Arians' system? Was there another system?

I just said the other person didn't get the benefit of excuses. That's all.

What does "the other person" have to do with anything? Yet again, I am not talking about anyone else.

 

[los226]

So what did that same defense do to change?

Last offseason I was in and out of threads saying that the Bucs defense had top 5 potential going into the 2020 season. They showed for the entire second half of 2019, but people stay focused on certain stats. Stats were skewed because they were as bad in the first half of 2019 as they were in 2018. They were bound to get even better going into the second year of Todd Bowles’ system. The only period that their defense had a slump was after they lost Vita Vea and one of their corners. Once those two guys came back before the playoffs they were humming again. Their defense is the reason they won the SB!! Brady did what he had to do, but defense wins championships.

The Saints had a SB defense, but Brees simply couldn’t do what he had to do because of his arm strength limitations.

 

[motivation2k12]

I guess you're also saying that once the bullets start flying, THE COACH with revert back to his old self.

Meaning going pass happy with a interception prone qb ? Instead of running kamara