Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered? (7 Viewers)

[gboudx]

My youngest has a sinus infection. Covid Binax test was negative on 2 tries. My oldest had some nasty cold during Thanksgiving. Tested negative on rapid and PCR tests, negative for strep and negative for flu. He had a cough that wouldn't go away. Eventually he got laryngitis and needed antibiotics.

 

[jrdbrn]

My youngest has a sinus infection. Covid Binax test was negative on 2 tries. My oldest had some nasty cold during Thanksgiving. Tested negative on rapid and PCR tests, negative for strep and negative for flu. He had a cough that wouldn't go away. Eventually he got laryngitis and needed antibiotics.

My 3 year old had it bad for almost 10 days. He finally woke up today "normal"... I put normal because he is a strange one .

I've been battling it now since last Friday. My oldest son is having the same cold symptoms. Wife somehow isn't showing symptoms.

 

[DaveXA]

all the original antivaxxers died out

Oh I dunno. I know a few still alive, lol.

 

[faceman]

Oh I dunno. I know a few still alive, lol.

I did a little research this morning. They've actually been around since Jenner's treatment for small pox. Some of them
had merit. Jenner's experiment would be considered unethical in modern medicine.

The Original Anti-Vaxxers | History Today

www.historytoday.com

 

[efil4stnias]

My youngest has a sinus infection. Covid Binax test was negative on 2 tries. My oldest had some nasty cold during Thanksgiving. Tested negative on rapid and PCR tests, negative for strep and negative for flu. He had a cough that wouldn't go away. Eventually he got laryngitis and needed antibiotics.

i had this just prior to thanksgiving....but my allergies are like that- especially in the fall ( used to be spring time- then about 8 years ago, flipped to fall - weird )

simple smells can trigger it off and im certain it was me using Tilex in my shower to clean- i know better.

 

[Moon]

Had no issues with the first 2 shots, had the booster Monday & it hit me a little harder, but followed the same regimen & came out fine:

Drank a glass of Emergen-C the day before, day of & the day after upon waking up
Popped 2 Tylenol the day of upon waking up, again around 3pm & again before going to bed.
Had trouble sleeping the night after getting the booster, right arm was sore & felt bad.
Woke up, drank the Emergen-C & popped 2 more Tylenol & that got me right.
Felt fine until about 6pm, started hitting me, popped 2 more Tylenol, quickly felt better & that was it

 

[Arathrael]

Had my pfizer booster (after moderna first and second), and my wife had the opposite (moderna booster after pfizer) on Tuesday. All pretty good, wife had a sore arm, mine wasn't even that bad (I could sleep on that side this time, couldn't do that with the first two). Just a bit tired yesterday and today is all.

 

[jahsoul357]

So if that's the case, what's the argument for not getting the vaccine? Please answer this question directly.

Because by your own argument, taking the vaccine protects you from COVID. So if you choose not to take the vaccine, THAT'S ON YOU. And if you get sick or die, BLAME YOURSELF.

Quit trying to turn this around on vaccinated folks like THEY are the problem. Jesus Christ.

If majority of the population are either asymptomatic or show mild symptoms (as they would with the vaccine), the benefit is null. Data has always shown that the severity of the symptoms are discriminate on factors that we spoke of earlier. Those that fall into that category are the ones who will benefit from the vaccine (well, most of them ). And if you read my post, those would be the targeted groups. And no one is turning anything around on the vaccinated; all I said was you can't really take a moral high ground saying you are getting vaccinated to protect others when the benefit is truly a personal one. And I think you knew what I was saying too. You couldn't possibly get what I said as me turning anything on the vaccinated.

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you only meant fork the fat kids.

That’s way better.

If that's what you got from my post, you either lack reading comprehension (which I doubt) or (more probable) your bias towards this topic won't allow you to read any post that doesn't agree with yours objectively. "Fat kids," as you call them, would fall under the groups considered vulnerable.

 

[sfidc3]

I made it very clear several times that I was talking about how we treat those on deathbed / grave and their families. Not about how they got there. John 13:34 says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." It's a command, not a choice. Your problem with the "garbage" is not with me.

I don't care what your fairy tale book says....It's funny how many folks have weaponized Christianity....command? LMAO....

And if you truly believe this, loving one another means protecting one another....

 

[Arathrael]

If majority of the population are either asymptomatic or show mild symptoms (as they would with the vaccine), the benefit is null. Data has always shown that the severity of the symptoms are discriminate on factors that we spoke of earlier. Those that fall into that category are the ones who will benefit from the vaccine (well, most of them ). And if you read my post, those would be the targeted groups. And no one is turning anything around on the vaccinated; all I said was you can't really take a moral high ground saying you are getting vaccinated to protect others when the benefit is truly a personal one. And I think you knew what I was saying too. You couldn't possibly get what I said as me turning anything on the vaccinated.


If that's what you got from my post, you either lack reading comprehension (which I doubt) or (more probable) your bias towards this topic won't allow you to read any post that doesn't agree with yours objectively. "Fat kids," as you call them, would fall under the groups considered vulnerable.

For someone who's been quick to repeatedly accuse others of failing to properly read and comprehend posts, you've consistently ignored the point repeatedly made by multiple people that vaccination has a protective effect against infection in the first place, reducing people's chances of being infectious at all and hence having a protective effect for others.

Here: https://assets.publishing.service.g...41593/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-50.pdf

That's the latest COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report from the UK Health Security Agency.

See the section on 'Effectiveness against transmission', that begins:

As described above, several studies have provided evidence that vaccines are effective at preventing infection. Uninfected individuals cannot transmit; therefore, the vaccines are also effective at preventing transmission. There may be additional benefit, beyond that due to prevention of infection, if some of those individuals who become infected despite vaccination are also at a reduced risk of transmitting (for example, because of reduced duration or level of viral shedding).​

The benefit is categorically not just a personal one; being vaccinated has been shown in multiple studies to reduce the chances of onward transmission. Why are you refusing to acknowledge that?

 

[whiteshadowen]

I don't care what your fairy tale book says....It's funny how many folks have weaponized Christianity....command? LMAO....

And if you truly believe this, loving one another means protecting one another....

Curious, have you ever read the entire Bible?

 

[jahsoul357]

For someone who's been quick to repeatedly accuse others of failing to properly read and comprehend posts, you've consistently ignored the point repeatedly made by multiple people that vaccination has a protective effect against infection in the first place, reducing people's chances of being infectious at all and hence having a protective effect for others.

Here: https://assets.publishing.service.g...41593/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-50.pdf

That's the latest COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report from the UK Health Security Agency.

See the section on 'Effectiveness against transmission', that begins:

As described above, several studies have provided evidence that vaccines are effective at preventing infection. Uninfected individuals cannot transmit; therefore, the vaccines are also effective at preventing transmission. There may be additional benefit, beyond that due to prevention of infection, if some of those individuals who become infected despite vaccination are also at a reduced risk of transmitting (for example, because of reduced duration or level of viral shedding).​

The benefit is categorically not just a personal one; being vaccinated has been shown in multiple studies to reduce the chances of onward transmission. Why are you refusing to acknowledge that?

This sounds great until you get to page 32.

 

[sfidc3]

Curious, have you ever read the entire Bible?

Which fairy tale version of the book? No, because I think most of it is totally made up....but go on believing a story that is thousands of years old told by multiple authors many of whom I doubt even existed...it is your right to believe every word of it, just as it's my right to believe it is all a fairy tale....

 

[Arathrael]

This sounds great until you get to page 32.

I don't think you understood the post. The question was, "Why are you refusing to acknowledge that <vaccines are also effective at preventing transmission>?"

It wasn't a request for you to refuse to acknowledge it again, while simultaneously vaguely referring to a page of the report that it only makes any sense for you to refer to if you've failed to fully comprehend what it's saying.

 

[jahsoul357]

I don't think you understood the post. The question was, "Why are you refusing to acknowledge that <vaccines are also effective at preventing transmission>?"

It wasn't a request for you to refuse to acknowledge it again, while simultaneously vaguely referring to a page of the report that it only makes any sense for you to refer to if you've failed to fully comprehend what it's saying.

Reread what you sent me.

As described above, several studies have provided evidence that vaccines are effective at preventing infection. Uninfected individuals cannot transmit; therefore, the vaccines are also effective at preventing transmission. There may be additional benefit, beyond that due to prevention of infection, if some of those individuals who become infected despite vaccination are also at a reduced risk of transmitting (for example, because of reduced duration or level of viral shedding).

This is saying that because "vaccines are effective at preventing infection," these people are therefore uninfected, so they can't transmit. This quote hinges on the vaccine stopping or preventing infection.

As I said

This sounds great until you get to page 32.