Aside from DA is anyone really happy with Kubiak's play calling? (2 Viewers)

[jasonsw]

Here's the problem:

He's still a young coordinator, and he has no real leader. It's one thing to have a great offensive mind and certainly he comes from a great tree, but when you don't have a real head coach, it's not going to look pretty.

This doesn't get talked about enough, head coaches not only have to coach and motivate their players, but they have to manage their staff. Dennis Allen isn't qualified to do any of those things, thus here we are.

DA Isn't qualified to manage his house.

 

[BBarnes]

It’s not some big mystery…. The same thing happens to the 49er offense when they have no offensive weapons available on game day. The system and play caller are totally limited by a lack of playmakers and a HC that want to play safe but dumb situational football on offense as a philosophy.

I said at the beginning of the season that in this system, we could survive a mediocre OLine…. But not that lack of offensive weapons and depth there.

Now…. At the time…. I had no idea we’d be dealing with so many losses in both areas. But I still think that if we had more weapons on offense, and less influence from the HC…. The offense would be much better.

Yes, at the end of the day. Our biggest issue in this organization in practice and game day is our HC.

 

[MV2]

Dude has had to call plays with a mash unit for 7 games. I'm not sure how any of you say it's on him. AK had a great game. He called those plays. You can't expect to win with a udfa receiver and washed up dudes every week. Outside of AK, there isnt one other stud at the skill positions on that field. It's a roster issue not a Kubiak issue.

 

[DSnfla]

Ridiculous to be your age and not be able to comprehend the most basic of basic usage of the English language on the forum. You skipped over almost every single word in my response I suppose and didn’t comprehend the little you did read. What forum are you reading?

See, I can be a clown too….

Now let’s try this again.

I NEVER said injuries didn’t derail the season, I never said injuries were not a major cause for where we are as a team. Nothing you responded with was found anywhere in my response.

I SAID in response to the OP’s question, I am not happy with his play calling AND IT’s NOT ALL BC OF THE INJURIES. That was in reference to how bad the offense has been. You’re delusional to think he hasn’t had issues adjusting from game to game and in game once the other team adjust. He has almost the same approach and attack angle each game. He’s not bad and a lot of the limitations has been bc of injuries, but it isn’t all on injuries. This isn’t the first time he’s had these issues.

Did you not say this "No, and it didn’t fall this far off the cliff just because of injuries." That IS the definition of saying injuries are not the reason the O fell off a cliff. SMH
LOL the only time we had an almost fully healthy O was the 1st two games of the season , Tell just what issues KK had in putting up over 40 points a game ??
No response to the rest of your post because i took no issue with the rest

 

[BBarnes]

Dude has had to call plays with a mash unit for 7 games. I'm not sure how any of you say it's on him. AK had a great game. He called those plays. You can't expect to win with a udfa receiver and washed up dudes every week. Outside of AK, there isnt one other stud at the skill positions on that field. It's a roster issue not a Kubiak issue.

I’ll say this, while I haven’t loved all his play calling. He’s a heck of a lot better than that we had last year.

 

[BBarnes]

Did you not say this "No, and it didn’t fall this far off the cliff just because of injuries." That IS the definition of saying injuries are not the reason the O fell off a cliff. SMH
No response to the rest of your post because i took no issue with the rest

Right, the offensive play calling did not fall this far off the cliff just because of injuries. The league adjusted and at times he’s struggle to adjust, part of that is because of injury, the majority of it is, but not all of it. Some of it has been on him as well.

He’d openly tell you the same, no doubt about it. As any solid coach would.

But no, I didn’t say what you implied in your post. That was just you not comprehending and flying off the wall assuming that every poster that didn’t see it your way must see it the complete opposite and therefore has to be wrong. I watch it from you routinely.

However, I don’t disagree with you. Injuries are a major reason why we are where we are, on top of that we have a terrible head coach. There’s a lot stacked against the team.

 

[Goatman Saint]

Remember when Pete called a good offense then as he worked with Allen it became worse and worse?

Now we hire Kubiak, comes in looks amazing. Now it’s like huh? Almost two complete different offenses. I still wonder how much poison Allen puts into a situation. I keep thinking back to the raiders manager or whatever Amy was and what’s he had to say and it really makes me
Wonder

 

[TheFly]

Remember when Pete called a good offense then as he worked with Allen it became worse and worse?

Now we hire Kubiak, comes in looks amazing. Now it’s like huh? Almost two complete different offenses. I still wonder how much poison Allen puts into a situation. I keep thinking back to the raiders manager or whatever Amy was and what’s he had to say and it really makes me
Wonder

Oh we all smell the smoke. Even the ones who may deny it smells it.

 

[DSnfla]

Right, the offensive play calling did not fall this far off the cliff just because of injuries. The league adjusted and at times he’s struggle to adjust, part of that is because of injury, the majority of it is, but not all of it. Some of it has been on him as well.

He’d openly tell you the same, no doubt about it. As any solid coach would.

But no, I didn’t say what you implied in your post. That was just you not comprehending and flying off the wall assuming that every poster that didn’t see it your way must see it the complete opposite and therefore has to be wrong. I watch it from you routinely.

However, I don’t disagree with you. Injuries are a major reason why we are where we are, on top of that we have a terrible head coach. There’s a lot stacked against the team.

NO coach will ever say " Most of my team is injured and it not going to be the same as if we had our best players on the field " That's just admitting that they are not in total control. But it's reality, It's like trying to do the same task one handed and expecting the same productivity. It's just impossible. Now some people can maybe increase the output of the good hand . DA is not that kind of HC. SP is and a few other HC's are
Make no mistake I am all in favor of replacing DA but not KK

 

[DaveXA]

Yes, at the end of the day. Our biggest issue in this organization in practice and game day is our HC.

This all day long. The HC needs to go. It won't fix the injures and won't fix this season, but the front office can and should get a head start on finding another HC. Maybe they have someone on another team in mind and prefer to wait, which I suppose I could understand, idk.

 

[natedogg02]

So embarrassing, they all just throw shoulders. Every one of them, honeybager, Davis, Taylor, Werner, all of them.

 

[nolaswede]

I thought the first 2 drives were great. Some different looks in the run game, then back to the same ole crap!

We just can’t adjust. That’s why we tend to get worse in the 2nd half.

 

[IlovemySaints]

Can’t judge him we have no explosive athletes , when’s the last time you seen a saints player juke someone out there shoes
even with shaheed he has that straight away speed but you don’t see him catch a 5 yard pass and turn it to a 50 yard touchdown we play like its 2003 from qb on down ,
I got a lot of clown emojis last year when I said this team will suck and our defense would be trash because our big name players are getting old and we haven’t done a good job finding their understudy


That’s one thing Allen got from Payton
Demario tyrann and cam should’ve had players being groomed under them years ago but we get stuck looking at the great times thinking they will last forever you would think he seen what happened with drew and would make sure that didn’t happen with our defense but nope smh

 

[Zztop]

things sure have changed since the first two weeks and some were afraid he would leave to be a HC somewhere because of that small sample size

Keeping Kubiak (Merged)

It’s still way early but based on his time with the 49ers and his first week with the Saints how do you lock someone like him down. If he continues to build the offense this year to a top 5 and does it again nex year how do the Saints keep him? If the saints have a top 5 offense and make the...

saintsreport.com

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

Still a small sample size, but I'm still high on KK. I think he's doing pretty well with the hand he's dealt.