Body Cleanse.... do you believe in it? (2 Viewers)

[ra]

Is your dog sick? If not, you should follow his "treatment" and just eat the stuff. :dunno: Then charge people to teach them how to treat themselves.

"Spongey."

 

[zugzug]

Have you ever had a colonoscopy? If you have, then you know that in the days leading up to your procedure, your doctor has you follow a fairly strict regimen of food and drugs to empty your colon. Yet, no one doing this type of cleanse ever reports passing black, rubbery bowel movements like the ones you see on colon cleansing web sites. And if you've ever accompanied your spouse to his or her colonoscopy, you know that all the doctor sees is pink, clean tissue. Where did all the "dried up" or "excess" fecal matter go? It wasn't voided during the pre-operative cleanse and it doesn't show up on camera during the procedure. Thousands of colonoscopies are perfomed every year in this country but not a single one has ever found evidence that we're all walking around with "dried up" fecal matter just waiting to make us sick.

http://www.lisabarger.com/colon_cleansing_scams.htm

That right there tells it all. When you flush you system before a colonoscopy you do not see what these products are claimng that comes out after a good flushing.

 

[kcirdor]

I hear repetitive rectal probes compact feces.

 

[MoJoMan]

you wonder why you're getting flamed but you continue to format your posts like a sales pitch rather than a discussion.

I do this for readability. Some people won't read everything so I've broke it up into sections.

hmm yeah something does seem fishy with this whole thread and his posts.

Well today is day 4 that I've been taking the stuff. Very productive. Today I pooped an island. Pretty sure I saw Gilligan and the Skipper.

Nothing is fishy with my posts. I've getting flamed for being creative with my posts? WOW.

Can anybody answer my questions in my post or is it just better banta to make posts like the ones above? I repeat... I do not work for this company. I'm doing this in the name of good health.

Thanks to all for your comments. lus-un2:

Actually, it's obvious he is just cut-n-pasting it from someone's web site, and not attributing it or linking it.


Here's another recent thread trying to do the same thing, but no one bit on this one.
http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25099

Actually when I cut and past something, I provide the link just like in the guidlines for this board. I have actually just taken the time to make it look good. Sorry if you feel like you are being sold. It is not my intention. You can look, I'm not cutting and pasting.

 

[kewee]

I do this for readability. Some people won't read everything so I've broke it up into sections.



Well today is day 4 that I've been taking the stuff. Very productive. Today I pooped an island. Pretty sure I saw Gilligan and the Skipper.

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Thanks for your sharing of your bowel movements.

 

[MoJoMan]

http://www.lisabarger.com/colon_cleansing_scams.htm

That right there tells it all. When you flush you system before a colonoscopy you do not see what these products are claiming that comes out after a good flushing.

I fully expect that there will be the naysayers out there.
I read the article and it's pretty much right on. Still, this is designed to be a full body cleanse and the author does not address that. At this point I haven't experienced any of the horror pictures seen on the site. Most of the people don't experience this and it usually doesn't happen until about day 8.

If it happens, I will tell you.
If it doesn't, I'm not going to make something up. So far, all I can say is that it really has worked pretty good and that I've cleaned out pretty good. Still, I will be taking the entire program for 2 months. Wish me luck. I've done similar cleanses this before and lost 20 pounds over a year period without trying to actual lose weight. Seems something is working.

I will try to tell you the facts of my experience. You can believe them or not.

MoJoMan

 

[Saintlady]

MoJo--why not try something that is not so extreme? For example, you could eat yogurt every time you take an antibiotic.
That will help prevent a yeast infection(overgrowth).

There are lots of little remedies/preventions out there.

From what I have read on this thread, ( and i have NOT read many posts at all, so keep that in mind) I fear you may be doing more damage than help to your body by this cleansing.

Oh well, your body.....

 

[saintology1]

MoJo--why not try something that is not so extreme? For example, you could take a tablespoon of yogurt every time you take an antibiotic dose.
That will help prevent a yeast infection(overgrowth).

There are lots of little remedies/preventions out there.

From what I have read on this thread, ( and i have NOT read many posts at all, so keep that in mind) I fear you may be doing more damage than help to your body by this cleansing.

Oh well, your body.....

I agree. I've seen too many of these fads in recent years. Just make educated decisions on what you put in your body and you'll be fine. I've seen a few people I know switch to a raw food diet, and go into these periodic cleansing sessions. It's ok if you know what you're doing, even though I don't particularlly agree with it, but it is dangerous to just "try". You can get real sick if you do it wrong, and I've seen a couple of people get REAL sick doing this stuff.

Most of em that I know fast for a few days, and drink Apple Cider Vinegar and then Olive Oil. And then I hear about the horrible, horrible things we have residing in our bodies. Look, there are organisms in your body at all times. They come in all shapes and forms and most are epiphitic (they don't harm you nor do they help you). Now there are wax and other buildups that occur naturally in your body and it isn't a bad idea to give them the ol flush every once and a while. But I would reccomend doing them under the supervision of a certified professional. Or, there are less extreme home remedies that are much safer. Just my 2 cents.

 

[geauxboy]

It's my personal opinion that most who go on a detox for the first time have many problems due to the shock to their system. Your body isn't used to these "foreign" bodies we introduce through our diet (and other ways), but it does the best it can to deal with it. To then start a detox would put your body into warp speed trying to get rid of years worth of what it deems as not needed. That's enough to make you feel bad because your body is in overload. That's a lot to ask of your body. Expect to feel bad. I would personally equate it to starting a workout regimine and your body hurts like heck for the first week or so until your body is used to the extra stress. Then, it's smooth sailing for the most part.

I know the first couple times I did it, I felt really bad. Now, it's no where near as uncomfortable. It actually feels better during the detox session.

 

[MoJoMan]

MoJo--why not try something that is not so extreme? For example, you could eat yogurt every time you take an antibiotic.
That will help prevent a yeast infection(overgrowth).

There are lots of little remedies/preventions out there.

From what I have read on this thread, ( and i have NOT read many posts at all, so keep that in mind) I fear you may be doing more damage than help to your body by this cleansing.

Oh well, your body.....

Thank you for being concerned.
In case you missed it, here is a full list of the ingredents with these products.

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FULL DISCLOSURE ON THE PRODUCTS OFFERED ON THIS SITE.
This is the Entire Program I am taking. Link shows the Ingredients.

Colonix

Intestinal Cleanser Fiber Supplement 100% Natural and Vegetarian
360 grams http://www.drnatura.com/product_pic/...fiber_pic.html​

Paranil

Anti-Parasite Support 100% Natural and Vegetarian​

110 VegiCaps http://www.drnatura.com/product_pic/paranil_pic.html

Toxinout

Heavy Metal/Toxin Removal and Liver Detox Support 100% Natural and Vegetarian
110 VegiCapsules http://www.drnatura.com/product_pic/toxinout_pic.html

DetoxiGreen

Daily Detox & Antioxidant Support with vitamins, minerals, enzymes, amino acids and green phytofoods 100% Natural and Vegetarian
90 Vcaps http://www.drnatura.com/product_pic/...green_pic.html

Flora Protect

Probiotics 8 Strains of Probiotic Bacteria High-Potency, Freeze-Dried 8 Billion/Serving 100% Natural and Vegetarian
60 Vcaps http://www.drnatura.com/product_pic/...otect_pic.html

KleriTea

Herbal Tea for Regularity and Detoxification 100% Natural and Vegetarian

30 Tea Bags http://www.drnatura.com/product_pic/kleritea_pic.html
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I don't see how it can possibly hurt you. Still, if anybody has proof, I certainly would want to know.​

 

[Loose Cannon]

How is this not considered spam/advertisement?

 

[MoJoMan]

It's my personal opinion that most who go on a detox for the first time have many problems due to the shock to their system. Your body isn't used to these "foreign" bodies we introduce through our diet (and other ways), but it does the best it can to deal with it. To then start a detox would put your body into warp speed trying to get rid of years worth of what it deems as not needed. That's enough to make you feel bad because your body is in overload. That's a lot to ask of your body. Expect to feel bad. I would personally equate it to starting a workout regimen and your body hurts like heck for the first week or so until your body is used to the extra stress. Then, it's smooth sailing for the most part.

I know the first couple times I did it, I felt really bad. Now, it's no where near as uncomfortable. It actually feels better during the detox session.

Wow somebody else that did a cleanse. Yes some cleanses are extreme so you can feel bad but so far I haven't. That's not to say that I won't. The reason I select this cleanse was that it seems to be very gentle and not just a shock treatment. They recommend you do it for 3 months (just selling product) so I decided to do it for 2 months.

Some people suggest that it's dangerous, but I don't see how based on the ingredients. It all just seems like fiber, vitamins and trace minerals that I'm not getting in my regular diet.

I guess some people would criticize eating Organic Foods instead of the process stuff we eat everyday.

 

[MoJoMan]

How is this not considered spam/advertisement?

Because I'm not affiliated with the company in any way.
I am asking for advice from others that have tried similar products.
Because I am actually doing the cleanse.

Because I am sharing my experiences with other that may want more information on if the stuff really works althought at this point, I don't think many will try.

So far I have not had one adverse reaction and I consider it better than being probed and certainly cheaper. I really don't think I have a lot of problems but I have friends that do cleanses once a year and they swear by them.

Answer your question Loose.... Maybe that's a bad word to use around me right know. No pun intended. LOL

 

[geauxboy]

Everyone has their own way of dealing with their bodies. I do it my way and that's all that really matters to me. I may make a suggestion, but that's as far as I try to go.

BTW, just about everytime anyone mentions "alternative treatment", there will always be those that knock yoou down for what ever reason. This certified doctor said this. That crackpot alternative doctor claims this. I expect resistance. Do I know the right ways? No. Does anyone?

 

[Saints#34]

The toxinout is basically just a multivitamin. It has massive doses of Vitamin C and B1, as well as a huge dose of Zinc. Considering overconsumption of Vitamin C just gets expelled from the urine, its pretty harmless and also useless. Just eat an orange. I'd say vitamin B1 overdosing is also fairly harmless, but again completely useless.

The very large dose of Zinc is definitely potentially harmful. Selenium as well. And while the doses in the Toxinout are not above the harmful level themselves, you still have to consider your normal diet in factoring in intake.

As for the detoxigreen, again its really no different from a multivitamin. I wouldn't call them directly harmful, but they certainly don't completely "cleanse your system of toxins," whatever that even means.

And the Colonix is, surprise surprise, fiber!! How amazing...

Basically you just paid $150 for a box of kashi high fiber cereal and a multivitamin. Congratulations, thats called a rip off. You should have consulted someone first, they could have saved you $130 you could use to buy film to photograph your poo..

In light of your other heart disease thread which didn't generate much interest, and in light of your rather unimpressive knowledge of all things medical, I'd say this is all fairly suspect...

I never begrudge someone the ability to piss their money away on a scam. Its your money, you can use it to light your cigarettes for all I care. But don't think you can go around trying to push this junk on others and not get called out on it.