Britney Griner released 12-08-2022 (29 Viewers)

[Crzycjunx76]

It's her right.

When I served in the military i was serving for the right to burn the flag. The right to stand for the flag doesn't need defending.

If someone sees a person or group being denied thier rights and equal treatment under the law that our armed forces have fought for... then kneeling to protest would seem to be in support of what so many have died for. Not "taking a stand" against tyranny at home and letting liberty die would seem to be an insult to those who have, and continue to, fight and die.

Wrong forum though.

 

[Complex Kid]

I hope Griner kneels for the anthem the next chance she gets.

What’s funny when you go back and read what she said about the anthem it’s not even really that controversial. She said it shouldn’t be played before games and to be honest I agree with her. It’s weird. We don’t play the anthen before movies, concerts or other forms of entertainment but we do it before every sporting event and it’s kind of weird. At the Olympics? Yeah that makes sense. Before every sports ball game we play? Eh.

I mean really? That’s were all of this “she hates America” is stemming from? Yeesh. I think I’ve had stronger opinions on America in the political forum on here.

 

[HoustonSaint68]

MOD NOTE:

Folks who post clearly partisan comments are going to start getting locked out of this thread.

And it is unacceptable to throw aspersions of racism, subtle or otherwise, against anyone on the board, no matter how "sure" you think you are based on their posting history. Continuing to do so will start attracting infractions. If someone posts something that you think is racist, report it and leave it at that.

 

[Hoodoo]

If someone sees a person or group being denied thier rights and equal treatment under the law that our armed forces have fought for... then kneeling to protest would seem to be in support of what so many have died for. Not "taking a stand" against tyranny at home and letting liberty die would seem to be an insult to those who have, and continue to, fight and die.

Wrong forum though.

Agree, defending someone's rights should never depend on their ideology, religion, political affiliation or otherwise. Freedom for everyone or freedom for none. Freedom doesn't mean you have to like what someone else says, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to say it.

 

[Brandon13]

What’s funny when you go back and read what she said about the anthem it’s not even really that controversial. She said it shouldn’t be played before games and to be honest I agree with her. It’s weird. We don’t play the anthen before movies, concerts or other forms of entertainment but we do it before every sporting event and it’s kind of weird. At the Olympics? Yeah that makes sense. Before every sports ball game we play? Eh.

I mean really? That’s were all of this “she hates America” is stemming from? Yeesh. I think I’ve had stronger opinions on America in the political forum on here.

That really all she said?
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Appears so. Figured she said something worse than that but guess not. What she said actually had some nuance to it and everything.

Not nearly enough there to rightfully label her as anti-American.

 

[Cage1]

To much divide in this country.

No there's not. And only a Pinko commie would think that.

 

[tjharris]

I wonder how the people being held in U.S. jails for marijuana feel about this?
I definitely think they should be freed now
And if it's worth an arms dealer Marijuana should at least be decriminalized nationwide

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Seems to me the time to be outrage over Paul Whelan was 3 years ago.

The Russians claim that Whelan is a spy and that is why they feel the need to hold out for someone that matches his value. If only we had someone of value in our country that would match that trade.

Well allow me to reintroduce you to Maria Butina, she was a Russian Operative that was captured and convicted in our country. It is thought by many that Whelan's arrest was retaliation for hers. After working out a sweet deal with the DOJ, she was released and deported back to Mother Russia in Oct 2019 without any consideration to Paul Whelan.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

I wonder how the people being held in U.S. jails for marijuana feel about this?
I definitely think they should be freed now
And if it's worth an arms dealer Marijuana should at least be decriminalized nationwide

The federal government should definitely decriminalize marijuana.

Most of the people in jail for weed are on state charges, so there isn't anything the federal government can do about that.

 

[Brandon13]

Ok but I just don’t see the benefit in putting it out there with that level of ambiguity and indifference to its veracity.

They're saying NBC News originally reported this and then "stealth" edited it:

"A senior U.S. official told NBC News that the U.S. government had sought to have both Griner and Whelan released as part of a swap with the Kremlin, which wanted the return of Viktor Bout, a Russian arms dealer who has served 11 years of a 25-year sentence in the U.S. But the official said Russia has treated Whelan differently because he is an accused spy, and that the Kremlin gave the White House the choice of either Griner or Whelan — or none."

There's a copy of it on an archive site I'm unfamiliar with and so I'm unsure of the legitimacy of it.

 

[DavidM]

They're saying NBC News originally reported this and then "stealth" edited it:



There's a copy of it on an archive site I'm unfamiliar with and so I'm unsure of the legitimacy of it.

Ugh. Even with a thorough awareness of the amount of bs that gets manufactured to drive divisions and distrust, I’m still bad at anticipating it.

The way you presented it, I take it this isn’t something that NBC is acknowledging happened?

 

[Brandon13]

Ugh. Even with a thorough awareness of the amount of bs that gets manufactured to drive divisions and distrust, I’m still bad at anticipating it.

The way you presented it, I take it this isn’t something that NBC is acknowledging happened?

That is the way it was being presented when I was reading about it but there is a correction on the nbcnews.com article now:

CORRECTION (Dec. 8, 2022, 4:09 p.m.): An earlier version of this article misstated the choice the Biden administration was given over hostages. It was to swap for Griner or no one, not a choice between Griner or Whelan.

I've screenshotted a copy that I've found on today.com that has the original language and that article says it was released at 9:52 a.m. I don't know yet when they made the edit but if I had to guess I'd say it was well before that correction was issued as I doubt that just sat out there for 6 hours on nbcnews.com

 

[DavidM]

That is the way it was being presented when I was reading about it but there is a correction on the nbcnews.com article now:



I've screenshotted a copy that I've found on today.com that has the original language and that article says it was released at 9:52 a.m. I don't know yet when they made the edit but if I had to guess I'd say it was well before that correction was issued as I doubt that just sat out there for 6 hours on nbcnews.com

Thanks for the clarification. So NBC corrected a reporting error and some people are putting their faith in the original report but not the correction? That checks out, sadly.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

The federal government should definitely decriminalize marijuana.

Most of the people in jail for weed are on state charges, so there isn't anything the federal government can do about that.

Too much profit in keeping folks incarcerated .

 

[Brandon13]

Thanks for the clarification. So NBC corrected a reporting error and some people are putting their faith in the original report but not the correction? That checks out, sadly.

Yes.

And to this point I haven't been able to find any evidence that NBC didn't acknowledge the correction at the time they made it.