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Bruh, the USA traded an international arms dealer for WNBA star.

Putin gave back Griner (rather than Whelan) so that Biden would catch hell from the American public (which he is). If Putin wanted to give Biden a “push” on the trade he would have thrown in Whalen (that would seem fair).

If we are now waiting on the time when we can trade for Whalen, might I suggest not holding your breath?
Inversely, there's no doubt that this move will bolster his ratings. It's a good look for some.

On the other hand, the move may drive more right-leaning independents to vote GOP and solidify the base. The logic will be that Biden isn't a Vet-friendly pres. Afghanistan exit and now this.

Not my opinions by the way- just stating what the possibilities are when it comes to the impact of this swap.

Agree that we should have gotten more in exchange for the war criminal who is responsible for many deaths by arming groups like Al-Qaeda. Happy she is free, no one deserves to be locked-up for that length of time for personal use in any country.
 
It just seems other countries always have the upper hand on us. with that said, i'm glad she's out.
 
I read the story this morning and it pissed me off. Our Leadership lost more today than just a bad "horse trade". Would my stance be different if it was one of my loved ones involved? Absolutely and I would be responding from 100% emotion and not rationale. I also would not be the one brokering the deal. The World was watching and we sheet the bed.
 
It wasnt enough for Putin- so your stance would have been "no deal" ?

And no, you literally just said this is exactly what Putin wanted ( for Americans to be upset about the deal ) and so far, you played right into his game.
What Putin wanted, Putin got. Not just from me, but from everyone. He got his guy back, and he got Biden put in a position where some will be happy, and others will be disappointed, with a small few making tik tok dances in response.

My response would have been throw in Wehlan, and I’ll use political capital to remove some of the sanctions placed on Russia, or I’ll work to have Coke start making Surge again. We want both of them, so let’s find a deal that makes sense.
 
I’ll work to have Coke start making Surge again.

If Putin was offered this and turned it down then he is a fool!

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What Putin wanted, Putin got. Not just from me, but from everyone. He got his guy back, and he got Biden put in a position where some will be happy, and others will be disappointed, with a small few making tik tok dances in response.

My response would have been throw in Wehlan, and I’ll use political capital to remove some of the sanctions placed on Russia, or I’ll work to have Coke start making Surge again. We want both of them, so let’s find a deal that makes sense.
Some are going to be happy and some are going to be upset with just about every single decision a President makes. If Whelan had been included there would still be people complaining we gave up too much.
 
What Putin wanted, Putin got. Not just from me, but from everyone. He got his guy back, and he got Biden put in a position where some will be happy, and others will be disappointed, with a small few making tik tok dances in response.

My response would have been throw in Wehlan, and I’ll use political capital to remove some of the sanctions placed on Russia, or I’ll work to have Coke start making Surge again. We want both of them, so let’s find a deal that makes sense.

Putin got a man who was jailed for 15 years - you act as if his organization fell apart after his incarceration. LOL.

you keep believing what you want in order to frame this deal how you want for whatever reason you want.

At the end of the day, she is coming home.

There was no "deal that makes sense" to be had here. I dont think you fully grasp this concept.
 
What Putin wanted, Putin got. Not just from me, but from everyone. He got his guy back, and he got Biden put in a position where some will be happy, and others will be disappointed, with a small few making tik tok dances in response.

My response would have been throw in Wehlan, and I’ll use political capital to remove some of the sanctions placed on Russia, or I’ll work to have Coke start making Surge again. We want both of them, so let’s find a deal that makes sense.
Why should we be working on lessening sanctions placed on Russia?
 
Some are going to be happy and some are going to be upset with just about every single decision a President makes. If Whelan had been included there would still be people complaining we gave up too much.
You are probably right on that last point. If they weren’t complaining about giving up to much they would wonder why we aren’t more active in the release of more prisoners.
 
Putin got a man who was jailed for 15 years - you act as if his organization fell apart after his incarceration. LOL.

you keep believing what you want in order to frame this deal how you want for whatever reason you want.

At the end of the day, she is coming home.

There was no "deal that makes sense" to be had here. I dont think you fully grasp this concept.
We are all glad that she is coming home, to that end we can all rejoice.

We will have to agree to disagree on this point that there was no “deal that makes sense”, as there is always a deal to be had. One Mr. Theodore Marvin DiBiase Sr. fought to teach us all the lesson that everyone has a price.

The reason I am framing the deal the way that I am is because there is a bit more harm that a weapons dealer can do (to more people) than someone who got caught with CBD oils.
 
Here's a direct quote from the Obama administration when we captured Viktor.

“Today, one of the world’s most prolific arms dealers is being held
accountable for his sordid past,” said Attorney General Eric Holder.
“Viktor Bout’s arms trafficking activity and support of armed conflicts
have been a source of concern around the globe for decades. Today, he
faces the prospect of life in prison for his efforts to sell millions of
dollars worth of weapons to terrorists for use in killing Americans."

We traded a WIFE BEATING basketball player for someone responsible for the DEATH of countless Americans. How can anyone be okay with this?
 

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