Britney Griner released 12-08-2022 (3 Viewers)

[El Caliente]

I'm not one of those people who are all "tHe MeDiA iS eViL" but I absolutely hate when they report on anything related to the military, because 95% of the time they fork it up.

He had a bad conduct discharge. He didn't serve "honorably." He can't even get any veteran benefits with that type of discharge. I still want him home, though, as I believe every American in custody should be home, no matter their background.

Damn, he’s not even getting the free dinner at Applebees?

 

[Devildog]

Damn, he’s not even getting the free dinner at Applebees?

Possibly not, but who TF wants to eat there anyway?

 

[El Caliente]

Would have much preferred both Whelan and Griner to have been included, but yes.

I would also say the same thing if we had gotten back only Whelan in this deal and not Griner.

I think if we got Whelan back instead of Griner there would have been riots in the streets.

 

[El Caliente]

Possibly not, but who TF wants to eat there anyway?

Well thousands of people obviously, that’s why they enlist in the military (for the free Veterans Day meals).

 

[efil4stnias]

I wouldn’t have a problem lifting sanctions that don’t work (or are slow developing) if it led to the release of another American. No point in keeping a bad contract on the team if the player isn’t helping the team.

Why sanctions against Russia aren't working — yet

When sanctions were enacted against Russia in February of this year, many forecasts were of an imminent collapse in the Russian economy. A new report looks at why that hasn't happened.

www.npr.org

And it’s not just El Caliente saying that sanctions are ineffective, leaders in Europe are saying it too.

Sanctions on Russia Are Working. Here’s Why.

The Kremlin’s ability to wage war is already constrained, but the worst is yet to come.

foreignpolicy.com

As the son of Cuban parents who were born and raised under US sanctions placed on Cuba, I can appreciate what sanctions are meant to do, but Castro never left, he only got wealthier, things never got better, and the restrictions were never lifted.

I don’t think the restrictions are helping the people y’all seem to think they are mean to help.

you are operating from the assumption that Putin would gladly accept this

its getting comical now.

 

[Brandon13]

I think if we got Whelan back instead of Griner there would have been riots in the streets.

Maybe, haven't thought about that. I don't really think it would play out like that but I could be wrong. Those theoretical people rioting would have been wrong and misguided in doing so however.

 

[DavidM]

So you're ok with the exchange?

I don't think it's that simple but I've made several posts, have you read them?

I'm relieved Griner has been released but I recognize this is more complicated than a situation that can adequately be described as "ok". Difficult circumstances often don't have neatly satisfying outcomes.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Sounds like an even trade to me... Sarcasm button on...

Genuinely unbelievable. This is more mind blowing than DAs decisions to throw on 3rd and 1.

 

[Brandon13]

I don't think it's that simple but I've made several posts, have you read them?

I'm relieved Griner has been released but I recognize this is more complicated than a situation that can adequately be described as "ok". Difficult circumstances often don't have neatly satisfying outcomes.

This would really be more accurate to how I feel than my "yes" response to his post.

 

[El Caliente]

you are operating from the assumption that Putin would gladly accept this

its getting comical now.

Laugh it up then Chuckles.

I failed to ask, what would your plan be in order to get Whelan back?

 

[El Caliente]

Maybe, haven't thought about that. I don't really think it would play out like that but I could be wrong. Those theoretical people rioting would have been wrong and misguided in doing so however.

Since 2020, those people are existing less in theory, and more in reality though.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

So you're ok with the exchange?

A weed smoking basketball player for a notorious arms dealer and terrorist?

You forgot how she beat the brakes off her fiancée. Real class act.

Brittney Griner Pleads Guilty, Seeks Counseling After Domestic Violence Arrest

Phoenix Mercury star Brittney Griner has reportedly pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and will enter a 26-week domestic violence counseling program following her arrest on April 22 in Goodyear, Arizona...

syndication.bleacherreport.com

 

[Brandon13]

Since 2020, those people are existing less in theory, and more in reality though.

Sure, I just don't see people taking to the streets and rioting over her.

 

[El Caliente]

So you're ok with the exchange?

A weed smoking basketball player for a notorious arms dealer and terrorist?

We should all be happy that she has been released.

The wedge is did we give up 2 first rounders for a defensive end.

 

[El Caliente]

Sure, I just don't see people taking to the streets and rioting over her.

If that were the only lens that it was being viewed from, then perhaps.

But in this day and age when race is always brought into question, a white guy being released (while the black woman remains locked up) would go over about as well as a turd in the punch bowl.