Build the Saints' 3-4 Defense (28 Viewers)

[Doug B]

Hell both teams in the superbowl run a 3-4 I believe

Steve Spagnuoli’s Chiefs defense runs a 4-3 base.

‘Spags is a wizard’: How Steve Spagnuolo turned Chiefs defense into one of NFL’s best

Spagnuolo has been his most creative, expansive and collaborative because of the quality of and chemistry between the Chiefs' defenders.

www.nytimes.com

 

[TruSaint]

Steve Spagnuoli’s Chiefs defense runs a 4-3 base.

‘Spags is a wizard’: How Steve Spagnuolo turned Chiefs defense into one of NFL’s best

Spagnuolo has been his most creative, expansive and collaborative because of the quality of and chemistry between the Chiefs' defenders.

www.nytimes.com

ahh thank u sir

 

[Rouxble]

I agree even at his age I don’t want Cam 2 gapping. A wrinkle of the 3-4 under is that yes it’s a 1 gap scheme but at least 1 player has to 2 gap.

Generally that’s the 5 tech.

In some of those schemes the Sam is actually the primary rusher. The Will LB is a rusher/ dropper and then the Mike and Mo are the two ILBs

FWIW Roman Harper said it in 2016 that Allen’s defense is more 3-4 than 4-3 and to a degree you saw a lot of standup rushers the last two years so we arent diverging much

I feel like you need three guys lined up from 4-tech in to be a base odd front, regardless of who puts a hand in the dirt. It’s not easy to impact the B gap from the 5-tech spot, which creates the B-gap bubble common to even fronts.

 

[Elvis]

With Tanoh at 5tech? Or Bresee at 5-tech and draft a 3tech?

A reminder that Tanoh is a free agent just coming off a pretty serious injury. He played in a couple of games at the end of the year, but who knows how much he has left.

 

[TruSaint]

A reminder that Tanoh is a free agent just coming off a pretty serious injury. He played in a couple of games at the end of the year, but who knows how much he has left.

Oh ok thank you, thought we had him 1 more year.

 

[TruSaint]

Imagine a draft with Tmac or Warren at 9, Tyliek Williams or Deon Walker for NT and then Bradyn Swinson or Kennard in the 3rd for SOLB/edge

 

[Stalwart385]

Your 1 tech in a 3-4 or 4-3 is gonna take the same amount of double teams, 1 gap is 1 gap

But a 1 tech in a 4-3 is more likely to play wider. So the 3-4 nose needs to be better built to do it every down.

 

[TruSaint]

But a 1 tech in a 4-3 is more likely to play wider. So the 3-4 nose needs to be better built to do it every down.

I mean to an extent I guess but in a 3-4 under you have a 5 tech, 3, 1, and another 5/6, just like in a 4-3

I catch your drift though, but the differences are minimal, plus if there's 1 player I want getting double teamed, it is my NT to allow my playmaker pass rushers to get 1 on 1.

 

[BreesHOF2024]

If we bring in Staley as DC we're almost surely installing a hybrid 3-4. We'll have to fix our run D/NT situation immediately as that was arguably the worst performing part of our defense or even team as a whole last year.

Grant would be rich at 9 and it's a pretty deep draft at NT, I think we prioritize an offensive weapon or Edge guy at 9 but if we do Graham (via trade up) or Grant are the guys to do it.

 

[OzzieSaint]

Could Walter Nolan be had at 40?...

 

[TruSaint]

Could Walter Nolan be had at 40?...

Doubt it, Tyleik can be tho.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Imagine a draft with Tmac or Warren at 9, Tyliek Williams or Deon Walker for NT and then Bradyn Swinson or Kennard in the 3rd for SOLB/edge

I want absolutely nothing to do with Deone Walker.

100% guaranteed bust or below average player.

 

[OzzieSaint]

Doubt it, Tyleik can be tho.

Shemar Turner in the 3rd or 4th?

 

[Rouxble]

For reference, here is how the Eagles interior defenders lined up with a hand in the dirt throughout the regular season:



And here are the edge defenders:



The Eagles rarely had a player lined up as a 5-tech, and Jalen Carter had the most snaps from that alignment (23). By comparison, they lined players up as a 4- or 4i nearly seven times as often.

 

[Saint KayBee]

3-4 always reminds me of the heady days of the Dome Patrol...I'll take a punt on that

Sounds great!