COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (3 Viewers)

[DaveXA]

There is scientific evidence that UV light can be used to disinfect public areas and it can be done safely. If it's going to prevent spreading it, why not use it? With all the things that are unknown about the virus, it seems shortsighted to just dismiss it out of hand when it is a proven method and has been for years and it is an inexpensive solution.


DAVIDSON: UV Lights Could Be Used To Fight Airborne Coronavirus - The Daily Caller

DAVIDSON: UV Lights Could Be Used To Fight Airborne Coronavirus

Germicidal ultraviolet-C radiation could potentially be used to kill the coronavirus both on surfaces and in the air, allowing America to reopen.

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UV light is commonly used to disinfect equipment. It's actually quite effective. I'm actually a bit surprised it's not utilized more. That said, for disinfecting your hands and body, soap and water works as well as anything.

A lame attempt at sarcasm or whatever those comments were in the briefing yesterday were not well thought out. I'm being overly generous. The comments were pretty terrible.

Anyone taking that comment seriously isn't thinking clearly either though. Who in their right mind thinks drinking bleach or something similar is a solution to curing or treating the virus? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

 

[saints4eva]

UV light is commonly used to disinfect equipment. It's actually quite effective. I'm actually a bit surprised it's not utilized more. That said, for disinfecting your hands and body, soap and water works as well as anything.

A lame attempt at sarcasm or whatever those comments were in the briefing yesterday were not well thought out. I'm being overly generous. The comments were pretty terrible.

Anyone taking that comment seriously isn't thinking clearly either though. Who in their right mind thinks drinking bleach or something similar is a solution to curing or treating the virus? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Agreed

 

[Eeyore]

There is scientific evidence that UV light can be used to disinfect public areas and it can be done safely. If it's going to prevent spreading it, why not use it? With all the things that are unknown about the virus, it seems shortsighted to just dismiss it out of hand when it is a proven method and has been for years and it is an inexpensive solution.


DAVIDSON: UV Lights Could Be Used To Fight Airborne Coronavirus - The Daily Caller

DAVIDSON: UV Lights Could Be Used To Fight Airborne Coronavirus

Germicidal ultraviolet-C radiation could potentially be used to kill the coronavirus both on surfaces and in the air, allowing America to reopen.

dailycaller.com

Can't have people around when you use it. I have a uv light and it has a timer with a countdown beeper to give you time to get away. It damages your cells and causes cancer.

 

[saints4eva]

Can't have people around when you use it. I have a uv light and it has a timer with a countdown beeper to give you time to get away. It damages your cells and causes cancer.

Yes, you are correct. I found this video on Yahoo where he explains the way it is used at very low doses to accomplish the disinfection. It's quite fascinating.

Could ultraviolet light kill coronavirus and help stop the COVID-19 pandemic?

Insight from Dr. Bruce Davidson, pulmonary physician and member of HHS Advisory Council for the Elimination of Tuberculosis.

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[St. Geezy]

This will be the norm I am afraid. We are opening too soon, but we have to open. It's such a tough predicament we are all in.

 

[nolastyle]

There is scientific evidence that UV light can be used to disinfect public areas and it can be done safely. [BOLD]If it's going to prevent spreading it, why not use it?[/BOLD] With all the things that are unknown about the virus, it seems shortsighted to just dismiss it out of hand when it is a proven method and has been for years and it is an inexpensive solution.


DAVIDSON: UV Lights Could Be Used To Fight Airborne Coronavirus - The Daily Caller

DAVIDSON: UV Lights Could Be Used To Fight Airborne Coronavirus

Germicidal ultraviolet-C radiation could potentially be used to kill the coronavirus both on surfaces and in the air, allowing America to reopen.

dailycaller.com

A lot of medical centers use UV light to disinfect their surgical suites. The only problem is, and the only place I disagree with you, is that it is *much* more expensive than other methods. Which is one of the only reasons why it isnt used in every room in every hospital, because it really is an effective way to sanitize a large area. Hospital grade UV machines are anywhere from $25,000 to $200,000 each. Not many municipalities or local governments can afford them.

 

[SaintsFanInLA]

Looks like the former Captain of the USS Roosevelt will be getting his job back. If so, then good for him. I thought stripping him of his position was stupid to begin with.

While I am glad for that, there is an inherent danger when you speak truth to power. He made a lot of people look foolish. I would not be shocked in the least bit if there was some sort of reprisal up to and including a court-martial for some obscure rule broken or an "accidental" death. May God bless and keep him.

 

[SaintsFanInLA]

This will be the norm I am afraid. We are opening too soon, but we have to open. It's such a tough predicament we are all in.

I don't understand this thinking. And this is not an attack, I just don't get it. If reopening too soon will guaranteed result in massive infections and death, then why do it? If this disease is real, and by most accounts it is VERY real, why take the chance? People can recover from financial devastation, but people absolutely cannot recover from death. Meaning, if they die, they are dead, and literally couldn't care at all about the economy.

It seems a little like this and if this analogy doesn't work, I get it but bear with me. We are all in a plane that's approaching its destination in let's say 10 hours. We shouldn't exit the plane until it lands because if we do, lots of people will plummet into the ocean and die. But the heater on the plane is set to high and it's EXTREMELY uncomfortable for a lot of people on this plane. Now lets say if enough people die then the ATC won't let the the plane land and it will have to circle around for yet ANOTHER 10 hours and start all over again. Why not just wait until it's safe to open the door?

That's not EXACTLY analogous but you get my point, maybe. Lol

 

[saints4eva]

A lot of medical centers use UV light to disinfect their surgical suites. The only problem is, and the only place I disagree with you, is that it is *much* more expensive than other methods. Which is one of the only reasons why it isnt used in every room in every hospital, because it really is an effective way to sanitize a large area. Hospital grade UV machines are anywhere from $25,000 to $200,000 each. Not many municipalities or local governments can afford them.

Interesting that Dr. Davidson says that Germicidal ultraviolet-c radiation (GUV) is inexpensive. I wonder how this compares with the hospital grade UV machines to which you refer and if Dr Davidson's recommendations are a viable alternative.

It is not difficult to remove airborne microbes wherever people gather — in public libraries, waiting rooms, cafeterias, or restrooms where someone coughed hard moments earlier. Exhausting air outside is effective but can sometimes be difficult. The any-season, inexpensive, lasting solution is GUV.

Placed near the ceiling, GUV nearly annihilates microbe infectivity. GUV is a proven potent disinfectant for coronavirus, either in fluid or airborne, and has been used to disinfect surfaces for decades. 16 seconds of ultraviolet-c radiation (UV-C) exposure inactivated 82% of an aerosolized dose. GUV efficacy against highly-resistant TB, which is primarily transmitted through the air, was proven in a multinational-CDC-WHO study. In our Philadelphia TB Clinic in 1993, we also installed inexpensive ceiling fans, run at low speed, switched to pull the air up instead of down, to help assure air mixing and fastest microbe inactivation, an approach endorsed in the 2015 multinational report.

Attention to safety and detail in upper-room GUV installation is required to protect skin and eyes from potential overexposure. High doses of UV-C can cause cancer and cataracts, but accidents are avoidable. Additionally, tests are underway with a shorter wavelength form of UV-C that has so far proven to be harmless to human skin cells while still destroying airborne microbes, making it potentially viable for use in occupied public spaces.

We should prioritize installing GUV now in spaces like ERs, ICUs, dialysis centers and clinics, congregate settings like prisons, followed by any other public and private spaces where the public gathers. Retrofitting is inexpensive. Five-star hotels can buy GUV tricked out like a Cadillac, but GUV is also produced as inexpensive UV-C fluorescent tube fixtures screwed high on the wall in simple ballast fixtures. Bulbs last 9000 hours. Repainting the ceiling with dark non-reflective paint, protective strips or egg-crate ceilings reduce UV-C light reflected below. The total output needed is just 1⁄2 milliwatt per cubic foot. A bar-restaurant or waiting room sized 40’ x 50’ with 8-foot ceilings (16,000 square feet) needs just two 20-inch 15-watt 254 nm fluorescent tube fixtures ($175 each) with a total GUV output of just 8 watts (efficiency about 28%).

DAVIDSON: UV Lights Could Be Used To Fight Airborne Coronavirus - The Daily Caller

DAVIDSON: UV Lights Could Be Used To Fight Airborne Coronavirus

Germicidal ultraviolet-C radiation could potentially be used to kill the coronavirus both on surfaces and in the air, allowing America to reopen.

dailycaller.com

 

[Rickboy]

I’ve got a UV box for my phones and a UV light wand to disinfect surfaces like computer keyboards. That, along with a lot of hand washing is my primary defense. So far so good (knock on wood).

 

[Utah Saints]

I've been considering building a UVC sterilization box. Here is a doctor building one step by step. I don't have a 3D printer, so I'm just going to use hooks or something I guess. UV light does degrade N95 masks very slightly. Should be a great way to sanitize packages, mail, masks, your phone etc.

 

[CajunInVA]

I've been considering building a UVC sterilization box. Will probably use something like this: Amazon product ASIN B086Z38LYY


Here is a doctor building one step by step. I don't have a 3D printer, so I'm just going to use hooks or something I guess. Also, UV light does degrade N95 masks very slightly. Should be a great way to sanitize packages, mail, masks, your phone etc.

Our babysitter’s mom is a CRNA and was telling us that her hospital is using UV for mask sterilization. The one issue they have run across, at least with their method, is that it’s drying out the rubber bands on the masks. They are having bands break in the middle of surgeries, etc.

 

[0rion]

Our babysitter’s mom is a CRNA and was telling us that her hospital is using UV for mask sterilization. The one issue they have run across, at least with their method, is that it’s drying out the rubber bands on the masks. They are having bands break in the middle of surgeries, etc.

The peroxide steaming deal that Battelle came up with also effects the bands my wife said...not breaking but losing some of their elastic property and being loose. She said people hate using the cleaned masks but it's better than none I guess.

 

[bclemms]

That's based on an antibody test done at random, but still a statistical sampling. It's an estimate at this point.

It's also based on antibody tests that Roche CEO says is only a little bit statistically better than chance. Unfortunately the antibody tests still need a lot of work and some of the companies shipping them out knowing just how inaccurate they are need to burn in hell.

 

[Sun Wukong]

It's also based on antibody tests that Roche CEO says is only a little bit statistically better than chance. Unfortunately the antibody tests still need a lot of work and some of the companies shipping them out knowing just how inaccurate they are need to burn in hell.

Yeah, after reading extensively about the antibody tests yesterday they basically seem to be junk and the numbers we've seen this past week in regards to L.A. and New York appear to be little more than a combination of wildly inaccurate testing and media sensationalism.