COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (4 Viewers)

[Goatman Saint]

Fortunately the beach openings in Duval appear to have little impact on our numbers. Still declining and only 20 deaths.

 

[sammymvpknight]

Possibly. Incubation can be a few days to two weeks. Then it may take another week or so for symptoms to peak. So, I'll be looking at next week. But I would have imagined that there would have been a small spike by now...which hasn't happened.

 

[Loose Cannon]

@sammymvpknight - thoughts on that Remdewhatever study/trial? Are we false starting again or is it legit?

I've thought all along a solid treatment would be a game changer and that normalcy doesn't really require a vaccine. I'd have no problem knowing that I'll eventually get Covid if I know that I won't die from it. I'd start living life again tomorrow (whilst staying away from anyone I know that's at risk or old) if there was a strong, proven antiviral available.

I've never understood the "we're in this until we get a vaccine in a year" take. It seems the fastest way to normalcy, outside of the Governor Hot Wheels #YOLO approach, is something that knocks the virus down to where it doesn't threaten the majority of the healthy, under 70 population.

 

[Eeyore]

Liberals and atheists have successfully infiltrated the government and are trying to take away this church's religious freedom.

Coronavirus Florida: Bradenton 'church' ordered to stop selling bleach as COVID-19 miracle cure

The Bradenton-based organization falsely claims that the treatment is effective for a number of conditions, including Alzheimer’s disease, brain

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[bclemms]

@sammymvpknight - thoughts on that Remdewhatever study/trial? Are we false starting again or is it legit?

I've thought all along a solid treatment would be a game changer and that normalcy doesn't really require a vaccine. I'd have no problem knowing that I'll eventually get Covid if I know that I won't die from it. I'd start living life again tomorrow (whilst staying away from anyone I know that's at risk or old) if there was a strong, proven antiviral available.

I've never understood the "we're in this until we get a vaccine in a year" take. It seems the fastest way to normalcy, outside of the Governor Hot Wheels #YOLO approach, is something that knocks the virus down to where it doesn't threaten the majority of the healthy, under 70 population.

Still way too early to tell but it does show some promise. Didn't do much to keep people from dying in the early trials but the people that got better did so on average about 25% faster which is a big deal for hospital capacity. A lot more trials are underway and we'll know for sure before the fall.

 

[AARPSaint]

I just saw an interview (Chris Cuomo) with one of the doctors from Universty of Nebraska who did the study on remdesivir. It's administered intravenously and was only tested on patients who were severely ill and was effective in shortening hospital stays. It's not a cure or a vaccine but has pretty much proven to save lives of very ill covid victims.

 

[0rion]

I would like to see the science that says now is the time to open things up because what I see in general are cases still increasing. Not increasing as drastic but still increasing. I just don't see what's different now versus 2 weeks ago.

 

[0rion]

is there no other option for the livestock other than killing them?
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Dozens of beef, chicken and pork processing and packing plants have shut down across the nation as COVID-19 infections soar among workers. More plants are on the verge of closing on account of sick workers or facilities that need to be sanitized.

Left with few buyers for their animals, farmers have begun to kill and dispose of healthy livestock while they wait for slaughterhouses to reopen.

There will continue to be plenty of meat in grocery stores until the stock of stored frozen foods is depleted sometime in May — unless, of course, people panic about the potential shortage and start hoarding. But consumers are already feeling the effect of the processing plant closures in the form of higher meat prices......

It’s a dreadful situation that might have been avoided had the meat processing and packing industry moved faster to protect workers from infection instead of ignoring federal guidelines on social distancing. Now, more than 6,500 meat industry workers have been infected or exposed to the coronavirus, and at least 20 have died, according to the United Food and Commercial Workers Union. At least 100 U.S. Department of Agriculture inspectors have contracted COVID-19 and one has died.

And yet things might get even worse under the “fix” that President Donald Trump came up with to head off a U.S. meat shortage. On Tuesday, he outlined a new executive order that designates meat processing plants as “critical infrastructure” under the Defense Production Act and forces them to remain open despite COVID-19 outbreaks.

And the magic ingredient? Exempting the meat producers from liability if workers get sick, according to news reports, because it’s “unfair to them.” That is, unfair to the companies, not the workers exposed to the disease..............

Editorial: Trump's meat supply fix is a recipe for coronavirus disaster

Saw this on the news tonight....it's either incredibly stupid or it's being reported wrong. If it is in fact happening I'll take a couple steers, pigs, and chickens.

 

[Eeyore]

Saw this on the news tonight....it's either incredibly stupid or it's being reported wrong. If it is in fact happening I'll take a couple steers, pigs, and chickens.

I don't know anything about it but I'd speculate that maybe the meat changes (becomes gamey) after a certain age?

 

[Zaphod]

I would like to see the science that says now is the time to open things up because what I see in general are cases still increasing. Not increasing as drastic but still increasing. I just don't see what's different now versus 2 weeks ago.

Unfortunately, too many people are too worried about their "freedom" to care about science..

 

[DaveXA]

I don't know anything about it but I'd speculate that maybe the meat changes (becomes gamey) after a certain age?

Not just age, but I suspect the longer they keep them, the more it costs to keep them. Everything has a shelf life, and unfortunately that includes animals. It seems a waste to me, but I don't know what goes on behind the scenes there.

 

[N.O.Bronco]

Unfortunately, too many people are too worried about their "freedom" to care about science..

Thankfully, most arent though....for now

Its a perfect case of a loud minority and a manufactured movement:

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Which I do expect to shift as these astroturf campaigns pick up steam from people mistaking it for popular opinion.

 

[Jeff]

Not just age, but I suspect the longer they keep them, the more it costs to keep them. Everything has a shelf life, and unfortunately that includes animals. It seems a waste to me, but I don't know what goes on behind the scenes there.

Cost of continued feeding is certainly part of it. I don't know how it translates across the meat spectrum but I've often heard re: chickens that the process can't deviate too far from certain norms. Chickens get too big and the processing doesn't work as well. Take that with a grain of salt but it does make sense that equipment has limitations and the livestock needs to be within certain parameters.

 

[Saint_Ward]

I just saw an interview (Chris Cuomo) with one of the doctors from Universty of Nebraska who did the study on remdesivir. It's administered intravenously and was only tested on patients who were severely ill and was effective in shortening hospital stays. It's not a cure or a vaccine but has pretty much proven to save lives of very ill covid victims.

Dr. Anthony Fauci says Gilead's remdesivir will set a new 'standard of care' for coronavirus treatment

Speaking to reporters, Fauci says he was told data from the trial showed a "clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover."

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White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday that data from a coronavirus drug trial testing Gilead Sciences’ antiviral drug remdesivir showed “quite good news” and sets a new standard of care for Covid-19 patients.

Speaking to reporters from the White House, Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a “clear-cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover.”


Fauci said the median time of recovery for patients taking the drug was 11 days, compared with 15 days in the placebo group. He said the mortality benefit of remdesivir “has not yet reached statistical significance.”

The results suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8% for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6% for the placebo group, according to a statement from the National Institutes of Health released later Wednesday.

“This will be the standard of care,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, added. “When you know a drug works, you have to let people in the placebo group know so they can take it.”

“What it has proven is a drug can block this virus,” he said.

 

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