COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (9 Viewers)

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Mr. Blue Sky said:
Yes Joe, as Oye and Xeno mentioned in their posts above- at the time i posted yesterday, it was very much true... And as I mentioned in my post, I’m not sure if it was their ‘OT Lounge’ which you screenshotted from, or their Political talk board where i saw that particular thread.. in any case, i agree that their mods did the right thing by changing it, though surely their members will see it as the mods ‘cowtowing to the anti-T**** crowd‘ or some such thing (i didnt type the actual word, so as not to veer into politics here.)
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I am not trying to criticize.. But I believe that they may have had two or three Virus threads floating around... But it's really nothing to debate about as it effects neither us nor the USA in any way...
 
DaveXA said:
Yeah, I don't know. Watching Gov. Cuomo talk, he doesn't sound like they're going in that direction. Wonder who that's coming from.
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i think a lot of non essential businesses are starting to bend his ear and maybe its just to pacify them or give a glimmer of hope but we have seen businesses go from non essential to essential after meetings in the last week
 
Krodwhodat said:
leadership up here in NY is looking at ways to slowly start to open up more businesses in the next week or 2. i think we are going to slowly see things open up....
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I have a hard time seeing "back to normalcy" (which was the stated hope I was replying to) unless something really, substantially changes in the next week or two. So much changes in that time. And you can undo a *lot* of progress in very little time.
 
Krodwhodat said:
i think a lot of non essential businesses are starting to bend his ear and maybe its just to pacify them or give a glimmer of hope but we have seen businesses go from non essential to essential after meetings in the last week
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That makes sense. Time will tell I guess.
 
DaveXA said:
I would advocate a narrower definition for essential businesses. Emergency services, supermarkets, gas stations and hospitals and that's it imo.
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I think they are just finding a balance. Just because you are considered "essential" doesn't mean you have to be open. That's left up to the business owner. With that being said if the business decides to open its up to that business to be responsible about it. For example, I work for an equipment rental/hardware store. We are considered "essential" so we are open. But we roped off an area at the front door and the customer is limited to that area and only one customer at a time. Our employees gets the merchandise and brings it to the customer along with any paper work that needs to be signed. I feel safe and it allows me to continue to have a job through this situation.
 
ThibodauxSaint said:
I think they are just finding a balance. Just because you are considered "essential" doesn't mean you have to be open. That's left up to the business owner. With that being said if the business decides to open its up to that business to be responsible about it. For example, I work for an equipment rental/hardware store. We are considered "essential" so we are open. But we roped off an area at the front door and the customer is limited to that area and only one customer at a time. Our employees gets the merchandise and brings it to the customer along with any paper work that needs to be signed. I feel safe and it allows me to continue to have a job through this situation.
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Same as our hardware store here. They have the number you can call, they will bag everything up for you and call you back to finish the transaction and get your stuff at the door. It’s working. It’s annoying, but it’s working.
 
Excellent points on both posts. I'd feel a lot better knowing that those businesses are not operating in "normal" fashion and taking necessary precautions to reduce risk of spread. I really hope it's enough such that the overall mitigation strategy works.

Oye said:
I agree.

The thinking is that a lot of these businesses are not going to see much traffic, because people are abiding by the social distancing. And a lot of these businesses are not totally 'open.' They have reduced hours. They have limits on people inside at the same time. There are cleaning practices that increase. There are more worker protections. And so on.

Access to a dentist or a vet is emergency only, for example. Yes, these places are "open" but they aren't as "open" as they normally are.

Just this morning, at the grocery store, they were limiting the number of people in the store at the same time. There were markings on the checkouts, only every other checkout open. Plexiglass installed at cash registers. Staff blocking off certain aisles and 'fetching' goods to abide by store limits. Purell stations throughout the store. Staff wiping down and spraying carts as you entered. Cashless transactions mandated. And so on.

Construction projects have guidelines around what can get done. And so on, down the line. It's still far from 'business as usual'

I think that's all important context because many of these places have limits on them.
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ThibodauxSaint said:
I think they are just finding a balance. Just because you are considered "essential" doesn't mean you have to be open. That's left up to the business owner. With that being said if the business decides to open its up to that business to be responsible about it. For example, I work for an equipment rental/hardware store. We are considered "essential" so we are open. But we roped off an area at the front door and the customer is limited to that area and only one customer at a time. Our employees gets the merchandise and brings it to the customer along with any paper work that needs to be signed. I feel safe and it allows me to continue to have a job through this situation.
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Krodwhodat said:
i think a lot of non essential businesses are starting to bend his ear and maybe its just to pacify them or give a glimmer of hope but we have seen businesses go from non essential to essential after meetings in the last week
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Here is Cuomo's press conference from today. Other than suggesting that "recovered" people should join the work force (and personally I think the jury is still out on whether that's feasible), he doesn't sound like he is leaning towards reopening businesses soon (I could be wrong, and I'm certainly not privvy to any internal conversations which could very well be different).

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ThibodauxSaint said:
I think they are just finding a balance. Just because you are considered "essential" doesn't mean you have to be open. That's left up to the business owner. With that being said if the business decides to open its up to that business to be responsible about it. For example, I work for an equipment rental/hardware store. We are considered "essential" so we are open. But we roped off an area at the front door and the customer is limited to that area and only one customer at a time. Our employees gets the merchandise and brings it to the customer along with any paper work that needs to be signed. I feel safe and it allows me to continue to have a job through this situation.
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I think many businesses would close if they knew the government was going to cover the cost of a 2-4 week leave. My friend was talking about how they had a meeting on it and it's like, "well, we will have to do it, but how?" That's the jist I got from him talking on the phone for just a few minutes while rattling off 20 other things.
 
faceman said:
Liquor stores are considered essential businesses on the Ms. coast and allowed to stay open. I don't agree with that
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Acute alcohol withdrawal will unnecessarily contribute to ER visits and take up ICU beds. Personally I consider them t be grocery-like.
 
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