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Anyone know why Taysom is listed as a QB on neworleansaints.com ?
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That explains all of the Face Palms to my posts and your follow-up below.
You haven't proven any of what you have stated to be facts. You just continue to ramble on the same stuff without proof to back it up.
There's no further point of either of us continuing the back and forth. You can stick to what you've said, and I'll stick to what I've said.
As I stated in a post above, I'll be the 1st to admit being wrong if proven to be so.
Will you?
Hopefully someone will ask a media member to go on record stating whether or not the media has had Full Access to Every Rep of Every Practice in OTAs, Mini Camp, and Training Camp, Or Not. The answer from a media member, not you or I, would set the record straight about this.
Until then,
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That explains all of the Face Palms to my posts and your follow-up below.
You haven't proven any of what you have stated to be facts. You just continue to ramble on the same stuff without proof to back it up.
There's no further point of either of us continuing the back and forth. You can stick to what you've said, and I'll stick to what I've said.
As I stated in a post above, I'll be the 1st to admit being wrong if proven to be so.
Will you?
Hopefully someone will ask a media member to go on record stating whether or not the media has had Full Access to Every Rep of Every Practice in OTAs, Mini Camp, and Training Camp, Or Not. The answer from a media member, not you or I, would set the record straight about this.
Until then,
See Ya!
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My takeaway here is listing TH as a QB and 3 other QBs on the roster is not a problem because you can have 20 QBs on your roster and still have a QB3 as long as they dont all dress.
But listing TH as a QB and then activating him along with two other QBs will mean that we did activate 3 QBs and therefore wont be able to have an EQB3.
Im not sure that we really care that much about it either way as in an emergency situation whether TH has practiced at QB in the new system or not he may still be asked to take QB reps.
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I'm not sure where you got that information. Did you assume it to be true or did you just make it up? Both are similar but they don't necessarily make it fact.
From the source I choose to believe correct, the NFL, they say it ended today, September 1st, 2024. Regular season mode begins tomorrow, Monday, 9/2/24.
You can have the last word on the subject, provided you admit you were wrong when replying.
2024 NFL Important Dates | NFL Football Operations
Get an overview of the important NFL dates for the 2024 league year.
| 1-Sep | Final day of preseason training camp for all clubs, as defined in CBA Article 23, Section 10. |
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I'm not sure where you got that information. Did you assume it to be true or did you just make it up? Both are similar but they don't necessarily make it fact.
From the source I choose to believe correct, the NFL, they say it ended today, September 1st, 2024. Regular season mode begins tomorrow, Monday, 9/2/24.
You can have the last word on the subject, provided you admit you were wrong when replying.
2024 NFL Important Dates | NFL Football Operations
Get an overview of the important NFL dates for the 2024 league year.operations.nfl.com
1-Sep Final day of preseason training camp for all clubs, as defined in CBA Article 23, Section 10.
There's also a first day that all clubs are legally allowed to start training camp. It doesn't mean they must start on that day. Similarly, they don't have to end on this date. Widge showed you the proof of when camp ended. You're ignoring it.
There's a specific amount of extra practice time allowed during camps, that's why the NFL regulates how many and when OTAs, minicamps, and training camps occur. It's to mandate the maximum, not to force teams to have the same schedule. Teams have no obligation to use the full time, start on the same day or end on the same day. They can end camp early and return to the less rigorous game week schedule whenever they want.
Edit: According to this article from WDSU, training camp technically ended August 16.
Everything you need to know about Saints training camp
WDSU Sports Anchor Sharief Ishaq will be giving daily reports from Irvine, California, as practices lead into the preseason games.
www.wdsu.com"The New Orleans Saints will begin this year's training camp on July 24 in Irvine, California. Rookies will report three days earlier on July 21.
Training camp runs for nearly four weeks and will end on Friday, Aug. 16."
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There's also a first day that all clubs are legally allowed to start training camp. It doesn't mean they must start on that day. Similarly, they don't have to end on this date. Widge showed you the proof of when camp ended. You're ignoring it.
There's a specific amount of extra practice time allowed during camps, that's why the NFL regulates how many and when OTAs, minicamps, and training camps occur. It's to mandate the maximum, not to force teams to have the same schedule. Teams have no obligation to use the full time, start on the same day or end on the same day. They can end camp early and return to the less rigorous game week schedule whenever they want.
Edit: According to this article from WDSU, training camp technically ended August 16.Everything you need to know about Saints training camp
WDSU Sports Anchor Sharief Ishaq will be giving daily reports from Irvine, California, as practices lead into the preseason games.
"The New Orleans Saints will begin this year's training camp on July 24 in Irvine, California. Rookies will report three days earlier on July 21.
Training camp runs for nearly four weeks and will end on Friday, Aug. 16."
St. Widge said:
Camp is over on August 28. It ended when they left California. They are in regular season mode now where the close parts of practices for game planning stuff.
The proof is in the pudding below. The media reports you and Widge are referencing are purely in physical locality as to when the team left California.
It's doesn't matter whether the team was in Cali, in N.O. or on Mars, according to the NFL article I cited below they were under the umbrella of training camp status.
The league has transitioned from training camp mode into regular season mode effectively today, 9/2/24.
You can ignore these facts, but they will remain facts, unless of course, you can prove there's a higher authority on the subject than the league itself.
From the source I choose to believe correct, the NFL, they say it ended today, September 1st, 2024. Regular season mode begins tomorrow, Monday, 9/2/24.
2024 NFL Important Dates | NFL Football Operations
Get an overview of the important NFL dates for the 2024 league year.
1-Sep Final day of preseason training camp for all clubs, as defined in CBA Article 23, Section 10.
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I tried to be gentle and give you the information, but you just ignored it. You are either misinterpreting the NFL's intent or purposely being argumentative. Either way, you're 100% wrong. The league doesn't set the training camp dates for each team. They only set the parameters under which all teams must operate. This means that no team can continue training camp past September 1st. Notice how teams are starting on different dates? If the NFL made teams start and end on the same date, this wouldn't be possible.
This link contains the training camp schedule for EVERY team. The rules are there to keep teams from abusing the extra practice times that come from being in training camp, not to set their schedules. Teams can break their camp whenever they want provided it's on or before the NFL mandated final date, September 1. There's substantial proof that the Saints truly broke camp when they left California.
NFL key dates for 2024 offseason: Training camp schedule, start times, locations; franchise tag deadline
Your one-stop shop for key NFL offseason dates
www.cbssports.comFrom the article:
Lead-up to 2024 NFL season
- July 15: Franchise tag deadline (4 p.m. ET)
- Mid-to-late July: Training camps open
- Aug. 1: NFL Hall of Fame Game between Houston Texans and Chicago Bears
- Aug. 8-11: Preseason Week 1
- Aug. 15-18: Preseason Week 2
- Aug. 22-25: Preseason Week 3
- Aug. 27: Roster cutdown date
- Sept. 5: Regular season kickoff between Baltimore Ravens & Kansas City Chiefs
Team | Site | City | Rookies | Veterans |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Arizona Cardinals | State Farm Stadium | Glendale, AZ | July 23 | July 23 |
| Atlanta Falcons | IBM Performance Field | Flowery Branch, GA | July 24 | July 24 |
| Baltimore Ravens | Under Armour Performance Center | Owings Mills, MD | July 13 | July 20 |
| Buffalo Bills | St. John Fisher University | Rochester, NY | July 16 | July 23 |
| Carolina Panthers | Bank of America Stadium | Charlotte, NC | July 19 | July 23 |
| Chicago Bears | PNC Center at Halas Hall | Lake Forest, IL | July 16 | July 19 |
| Cincinnati Bengals | Kettering Health Practice Fields | Cincinnati, OH | July 20 | July 23 |
| Cleveland Browns | CrossCountry Mortgage Campus | Berea, OH | July 22 | July 23 |
| Dallas Cowboys | Marriott Residence Inn | Oxnard, CA | July 24 | July 24 |
| Denver Broncos | Broncos Park Powered by CommonSpirit | Englewood, CO | July 17 | July 23 |
| Detroit Lions | Detroit Lions Training Facility | Allen Park, MI | July 20 | July 23 |
| Green Bay Packers | Nitschke Field | Green Bay, WI | July 17 | July 21 |
| Houston Texans | Houston Methodist Training Center | Houston, TX | July 17 | July 17 |
| Indianapolis Colts | Grand Park | Westfield, IN | July 24 | July 24 |
| Jacksonville Jaguars | Miller Electric Center | Jacksonville, FL | July 19 | July 23 |
| Kansas City Chiefs | Missouri Western State University | Saint Joseph, MO | July 16 | July 20 |
| Las Vegas Raiders | Jack Hammett Sports Complex | Costa Mesa, CA | July 21 | July 23 |
| Los Angeles Chargers | The Bolt | El Segundo, CA | July 16 | July 23 |
| Los Angeles Rams | Loyola Marymount University | Los Angles, CA | July 23 | July 23 |
| Miami Dolphins | Baptist Health Training Compliex | Miami Gardens, FL | July 16 | July 23 |
| Minnesota Vikings | TCO Performance Center | Eagan, MN | July 21 | July 23 |
| New England Patriots | Gillette Stadium | Foxborough, MA | July 19 | July 23 |
| New Orleans Saints | University of California, Irvine | Irvine, CA | July 16 | July 23 |
| New York Giants | Quest Diagnostics Training Facility | East Rutherford, NJ | July 16 | July 23 |
| New York Jets | Atlanta Health Jets Training Center | Florham Park, NJ | July 18 | July 23 |
| Philadelphia Eagles | NovaCare Complex | Philadelphia, PA | July 23 | July 23 |
| Pittsburgh Steelers | Saint Vincent College | Latrobe, PA | July 24 | July 24 |
| San Francisco 49ers | SAP Performance Facility | Santa Clara, CA | July 16 | July 23 |
| Seattle Seahawks | Virginia Mason Athletic Center | Renton, WA | July 17 | July 23 |
| Tampa Bay Buccaneers | AdventHealth Training Center | Tampa, FL | July 22 | July 23 |
| Tennessee Titans | Ascension Saint Thomas Sports Park | Nashville, TN | July 23 | July 23 |
| Washington Commanders | OrthoVirginia Training Center | Auburn, VA | July 18 | July 23 |
And one more time, another article citing the last day of Saints training camp.
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The Falcons ended camp on Aug 28, not September 1.
The Bucs ended camp on or near Aug 21, not September 1.
www.si.com
The Panthers ended training camp with joint practice against the Jets on Aug 15, not September 1. That can be found herd,
And here...
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These were the first 3 teams I checked. NONE of them ended when the NFL mandated training camps MUST end. That date is the boundary and not the requirement. You're misinterpreting it.
The Bucs ended camp on or near Aug 21, not September 1.
3 Key Takeaways From Day 17 of Buccaneers Training Camp 2024
It was another easy practice for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but it's also the second-to-last practice of training camp. Since the final one is a joint practice b
The Panthers ended training camp with joint practice against the Jets on Aug 15, not September 1. That can be found herd,
And here...
Spend A Day at Carolina Panthers Training Camp
We have everything you need to know about the Carolina Panthers Training Camp in Spartanburg, SC, plus Panthers fan events in Spartanburg and Charlotte, NC.
kiddingaroundgreenville.comThese were the first 3 teams I checked. NONE of them ended when the NFL mandated training camps MUST end. That date is the boundary and not the requirement. You're misinterpreting it.
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When are people gonna stop worrying over this? lol
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You entered the back and forth between me and St. Widge. He's quite capable of making his own case without you carrying his water for him.
I didn't need to interpret or misinterpret the league rule on this. It's clear what it says. You've chosen to speak on what the NFL's "Intent" of the rule is, not me.
I'm not being argumentative. I'm simply standing by the facts as stated by the league rules.
2024 NFL Important Dates | NFL Football Operations
Get an overview of the important NFL dates for the 2024 league year.
1-Sep Final day of preseason training camp for all clubs, as defined in CBA Article 23, Section 10.
Is the game Officially Over because you choose to leave at the end of the 3rd quarter when it's evident that the Saints will lose that day?
When you were given a test in school and had an hour to complete it, was the testing period over because you finished your exam in 58 minutes?
Do you trust what The Rules State, that are clear and concise, or do you rather question the intent and authority of the rule maker?
D.A. was questioned last week as to whether the team was game planning for the Panthers in their practices, which were here.
His answer was "No, not yet. We're still evaluating the players on our roster."
The first day of Regular Season Practices began yesterday, Monday, September 2nd, 2024.
The back and forth that St. Widge and I were in disagreement on was a broader subject than the date training camp ended. For reference, you can visit page 6 of this thread, where it all started, that also included input from Meily and Webster. You certainly have a right to chime in. I'm just telling you there's a bigger picture.
At its core were the following contentions:
1. Whether or not Taysom Hill could enter a game should Carr get injured and be effective with limited snaps in the offseason in the new system.
2. Whether or not if Hill had any snaps at QB during the offseason beyond the "Wildcat" type.
3. If All off-season practices had been viewed in their entirety by the media.
Number 1 would remain an opinion, regardless of the answers to #2 and #3, until proven one way or the other on the field of play.
Number 2 would enlighten those outside of the organization, fans and media included, as to how the Saints may intend to use Hill in 2024 when lined up at QB.
Number 3 has not been confirmed yet by a source with media credentials having gone on record to clear that question up.
Until then, we can't be certain either way.
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So what happened to Taysom Hill? I saw another roster where they had Taysom Hill as a second tight and still a third roster where they had Taysom Hill as a fullback but I don’t see him on this one, never mind just found him in a running back position.#SwissArmyKnife.
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