Dennis Allen confirms that Mickey Loomis was not in favor of firing him after Panthers loss (2 Viewers)

[The Unrest Cure]

It is stuff like this that reminds you that NFL football truly is a "fraternity". DA will get new life somewhere else. Few coaches curl up and never get another opportunity in some form, unless they managed to get a permanent exile like Gruden.

On the whole, the NFL treats coaches like poorly-recyclable material: they get re-used and re-sold multiple times, while rarely changing their packaging or primary function.

 

[Kingston]

So his last moment in the sun before he fades away

Trust this he is not gonna fade away he will be on the staff in Denver next season he won’t be DC but maybe back to his bread and butter coaching DB’s

 

[latechsaint26]

Expected. Loomis is patient, he likely would have fired him, but not in middle of season. It’s not, never been his MO and though I was happy it happens, it absolutely could have waited till the end of the year because the biggest culprit to the season was injuries.

Those injuries affected Rizzi just like DA.

Now Rizzi did come in and make some changes that Allen stubbornly didn’t, so his firing was deserved but it could have waited because it’s the respectful way to go about things

Injuries weren’t an excuse they were just a fact and he recognized that.

How dare you be a sane normal person on the internet. Do you even know how to use this thing???

 

[jesusfish]

If Loomis had his way, we might be picking first overall in the draft.

 

[JackDiesel]

DA would have been fired on Monday, Loomis just wanted give him the same respect given to PC to finish the season before the team moved on, it's a classy move to not throw your coaches to the wolves and though the action made fans feel better, the team was not better off because of it, but it was an action that made fans feel heard.

The fans had nothing to do with it. This was a move for the players. He had completely lost the team. Benson had to go behind his back to contact the players then pull rank on Loomis to make it.

We won 3 games after he was fired, I'd say the team was significantly better off for it. Rizzi was just given an impossible challenge of trying to turn around a culture that had turned soft for 3 years.

 

[madsaint1967]

Yeah, we already figured this out. And I’m sorry not sorry that his staff had to find other employment. Them’s the ways of the NFL, if you want 20 yr employment get a government job.

 

[Elvis]

More confirmation that Loomis doesn't have what it takes to do the hard work the team needs done.

 

[los226]

You can never be impatient when a man is out here chopping wood day in and day out. Mickey cares too much about the people. Just like Mickey said in the past “it’s not about what you do, but who you do it with.”

 

[Kingston]

DA would have been fired on Monday, Loomis just wanted give him the same respect given to PC to finish the season before the team moved on, it's a classy move to not throw your coaches to the wolves and though the action made fans feel better, the team was not better off because of it, but it was an action that made fans feel heard.

There is no doubt that he did have to go be it in season or post season, and your 100% correct doing so during the season is a bad play 99 times out of 100.

The team was in a compleat tailspin 7 straight loses plus the video from Charlotte after the loss where Cam was walking off to the panthers locker room and AK and Carr had to go get him. I don’t know what that was all about but you’re talking about one of your team captains doing whatever. Then on top of that you have AK saying without saying DA had to go.

It’s a bad move to do that in season but whatever transpired that day endangered the entire locker room from imploding. At the end of the day, considering where we are right now, had he stayed the locker room fractures into a million bits and we end up with 2 wins on the year. We own the top pick in the draft. Not the worst thing to be sure but there’s no QB or really any one player in this draft that can fix a franchise. Loosing out would have been for minimal gain compared to burning down relationships with the players on the roster.

Firing your HC in season is never the right thing to do but in this instance it was that 1 time in 100.

 

[SuperSaint]

In retrospect, the firing really accomplished nothing.

 

[sportsaint]

If Loomis had his way, we might be picking first overall in the draft.

And that would be a bad thing? Maybe that’s what he was trying to accomplish. Not defending his inaction at all but the team would likely be picking higher

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Playing Devils Advocate here : This doesn't mean that Loomis wasn't going to part ways in the offseason (I suspect he would've kept DA). But nowhere does this give any hint about Loomis just simply not believe in mid season firings and wasn't planning on moving on from DA after the season.

 

[Bayouboy]

The scary part about this, is Loomis may have used the "injury excuse" to give DA and the staff another shot in 2025!!! Loomis was adamant last year that "we have the right guys in the building". Let that sink in a bit.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

In retrospect, the firing really accomplished nothing.

It accomplished something...it got DA which was a cancer to the organization away from the organization. He lost the players, and there was no point in keeping him once that happened.

Crazy part was that the players actually thought that at the end of LAST season that DA was getting fired.

 

[Rouxble]

The fans had nothing to do with it. This was a move for the players. He had completely lost the team. Benson had to go behind his back to contact the players then pull rank on Loomis to make it.

We won 3 games after he was fired, I'd say the team was significantly better off for it. Rizzi was just given an impossible challenge of trying to turn around a culture that had turned soft for 3 years.

Rizzi had a strength of victory of .275 (combined opponent record of 14-37), I wouldn't say he did much that any HC (including Allen) couldn't have done. I agree with those who say the midseason firing didn't really do much, as per usual.